Ahh, gotcha.

Nice shot, and sorry about the bees.

--- David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Those are shot at ISO 100 Brendan. I don't recommend
> high ISO for 
> this kind of shooting.
> 
> I do use high ISO test shots to help work out
> exposure times for ISO 
> 100. Such as this one to determine how much light
> painting I needed:
> 
>
<http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/Images/K10D/Vacant%20Eyes.jpg>
> 
> Unfortunately my cable release developed a fault
> after this shot (I 
> also got attacked by some bees that my torch had
> disturbed) so I 
> never got the final shot.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Dave
> 
> 
> 
> 
> At 01:01 AM 2/07/2008, Brendan MacRae wrote:
> >David,
> >
> >Why high ISOs at all for shots like these? Here's a
> 36
> >minute exposure of some star trails I did last year
> >with the K10D:
> >
> >http://www.primelensphoto.com/star_trails.jpg
> >
> >Notice the tiny bit of sensor bloom in the upper
> >middle left of the frame.
> >
> >This was RAW, ISO 100, f6.3. Can't remember which
> >lens. The white balance was set to AWB but probably
> >should have been set to daylight (that's what stars
> >are after all).
> >
> >Now, I'm at 2,500 feet above sea level with very
> >little ambient light around my place so I have much
> >better natural conditions to shot under for this
> kind
> >of shot.
> >-Brendan
> >--- David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > Now worries Walt (I've posted these before.):
> > >
> > >
>
><http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2209/2258045616_6bbe97702c_o.jpg>
> > > K10D, DA* 16-50mm f2.8 @ 16mm, 1208 seconds
> (~20min)
> > > @ f4, ISO 100
> > >
> > >
>
><http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2119/2481946623_1e672bebcc_o.jpg>
> > > K10D, DA* 16-50mm f2.8 @ 16mm, 969 seconds
> (~16min)
> > > @ f4, ISO 100
> > >
> > > Now these have been photoshoped to remove 2
> sensor
> > > heat blooms
> > > inherent to the K10D & miscellaneous noise.
> > >
> > > For the heat blooms I use a dark frame that I
> have
> > > on file (ie 15 min
> > > exposure made with the lens cap on) & I use it
> > > overlayed on the base
> > > exposure & change it's blending mode to
> Difference
> > > to clean up the
> > > majority of the bloom (sometimes I use 1 or 2 of
> > > these layers). The
> > > rest is done using the clone, heal & patch
> tools.
> > >
> > > Here is a full sized version of the second shot
> BP
> > > (Before Photoshop
> > > :-) (~900kb):
> > >
> > >
>
><http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/Images/K10D/_IGP1494.jpg>
> > >
> > > These were taken in very dark conditions. It's
> about
> > > 3-4 hours north
> > > of the city & the only illumination that night
> was
> > > from the stars (and
> > > gelled flashes).
> > >
> > > I'm not surprised about the troubles you are
> having
> > > at high ISO. These
> > > sensors heat up quick. If you want to try again,
> use
> > > the inbuilt
> > > multiple exposure feature with EV compensation
> > > turned off. Instead of
> > > taking 1x 3 min exposure take 9x 20 second
> > > exposures. I suspect though
> > > that the heat will still be an issue.
> > >
> > > What I do to guesstimate exposure is take a 30
> > > second - 2 min exposure
> > > (or more, until the lighting looks good) @ ISO
> 1600
> > > and work backwards
> > > from there to determine the exposure for ISO
> 100.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > > Dave
> 
> 
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