Those are shot at ISO 100 Brendan. I don't recommend high ISO for 
this kind of shooting.

I do use high ISO test shots to help work out exposure times for ISO 
100. Such as this one to determine how much light painting I needed:

<http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/Images/K10D/Vacant%20Eyes.jpg>

Unfortunately my cable release developed a fault after this shot (I 
also got attacked by some bees that my torch had disturbed) so I 
never got the final shot.

Cheers,

Dave




At 01:01 AM 2/07/2008, Brendan MacRae wrote:
>David,
>
>Why high ISOs at all for shots like these? Here's a 36
>minute exposure of some star trails I did last year
>with the K10D:
>
>http://www.primelensphoto.com/star_trails.jpg
>
>Notice the tiny bit of sensor bloom in the upper
>middle left of the frame.
>
>This was RAW, ISO 100, f6.3. Can't remember which
>lens. The white balance was set to AWB but probably
>should have been set to daylight (that's what stars
>are after all).
>
>Now, I'm at 2,500 feet above sea level with very
>little ambient light around my place so I have much
>better natural conditions to shot under for this kind
>of shot.
>-Brendan
>--- David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Now worries Walt (I've posted these before.):
> >
> >
><http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2209/2258045616_6bbe97702c_o.jpg>
> > K10D, DA* 16-50mm f2.8 @ 16mm, 1208 seconds (~20min)
> > @ f4, ISO 100
> >
> >
><http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2119/2481946623_1e672bebcc_o.jpg>
> > K10D, DA* 16-50mm f2.8 @ 16mm, 969 seconds (~16min)
> > @ f4, ISO 100
> >
> > Now these have been photoshoped to remove 2 sensor
> > heat blooms
> > inherent to the K10D & miscellaneous noise.
> >
> > For the heat blooms I use a dark frame that I have
> > on file (ie 15 min
> > exposure made with the lens cap on) & I use it
> > overlayed on the base
> > exposure & change it's blending mode to Difference
> > to clean up the
> > majority of the bloom (sometimes I use 1 or 2 of
> > these layers). The
> > rest is done using the clone, heal & patch tools.
> >
> > Here is a full sized version of the second shot BP
> > (Before Photoshop
> > :-) (~900kb):
> >
> >
><http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/Images/K10D/_IGP1494.jpg>
> >
> > These were taken in very dark conditions. It's about
> > 3-4 hours north
> > of the city & the only illumination that night was
> > from the stars (and
> > gelled flashes).
> >
> > I'm not surprised about the troubles you are having
> > at high ISO. These
> > sensors heat up quick. If you want to try again, use
> > the inbuilt
> > multiple exposure feature with EV compensation
> > turned off. Instead of
> > taking 1x 3 min exposure take 9x 20 second
> > exposures. I suspect though
> > that the heat will still be an issue.
> >
> > What I do to guesstimate exposure is take a 30
> > second - 2 min exposure
> > (or more, until the lighting looks good) @ ISO 1600
> > and work backwards
> > from there to determine the exposure for ISO 100.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Dave


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