David, could you post a sample of a 10 minute exposure with the K10? I have tried some shots around 3 minutes with mine, NR on, and they are almost totally red. This is at iso 1600. 800 is only marginally better. And they were in a reasonably dark site, mag 6+ skies.
Walt On 7/1/08, David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't deny that the K20D high ISO is less noisy than the K10D. I use > ISO 3200 & 6400 often. I haven't investigated the various high ISO NR > settings. I just set it to weak & left it when I first got the camera. > > However I do shoot a quite a few of long exposures 10+ minutes, & the > inability to turn off long exposure NR, keeps me carrying the K10D on > night shoots. > > Cheers, > > Dave > > 2008/7/1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > BTW, you can turn off high ISO noise reduction. You just can't turn off > > long exposure noise reduction, but you can set it to "auto" where it will > > remain off if excessive heat buildup isn't indicated. > > > > But for me the performance is what counts. And the camera performs better > > than any other Pentax offering, and, according to Adam, on a par with the > > Nikon D300. > > Paul > > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> With 8000 frames on the K20D I'm sure it's less noisy thatn the K10D at > >> any ISO > >> above 400. In fact, 1600 is comparable to about 600 on the K10. And the > >> K10D > >> doesn't shoot 6400. It wouldn't dare:-). > >> Paul > >> -------------- Original message ---------------------- > >> From: "David Savage" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> > 2008/6/30 Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> > > No, it's not the result of image processing you could apply in > >> > > PhotoShop. I shoot only RAW. The RAW data is far superior. It's > >> > > apparently the result of a sensor that generates less heat at high > >> > > ISO than the K10D sensor. > >> > > >> > I'm not too sure about this. > >> > > >> > The inability to fully disable NR & some ISO 6400 shots I've taken > >> > that display heat patterns, leads me believe that the sensor isn't as > >> > noise free as many think. > >> > > >> > Cheers, > >> > > >> > Dave > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > [email protected] > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

