Yes but I'm all set for FF Pentax, I've still got my 20-35mm FA 4.0 really nice as an ultra wide on film,. even better as a ~28 mm equivalent on APS-C and also no where near $2000 when new. It breaks my heart that it's been discontinued.

Adam Maas wrote:
And that's a crop lens. So it would be one of the ways of saving $2000
dollars by running in DX crop mode. It sucks at 18mm on FF (Been
there, done that with the Tokina on an F100, it's not anything
approaching a solution for FF use).

Truly good ultra-wide zooms for F mount come down to the 14-24 f2.8
(the king of ultra-wide zoom performance on any mount right now, beats
every prime in its range except the 21 Distagon) at $2k CDN and the
17-35 f2.8 AF-S which gets worse as it gets wider but is extremely
good at 35mm. That's around $1500CDN new if you can actually find one.

-Adam

On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 11:24 AM, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hum, last I herd the Pentax 12-24 was pretty decent, and that doesn't cost
anywhere near to $2000.  The Tokina version might or might not be SMC but it
has a pretty good reputation.  I always considered 18mm pretty much ultra
wide on 35mm.

Adam Maas wrote:
On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 12:15 AM, John Sessoms <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

From: "David Savage"

Nikon's DX lenses work on the D3/D700. Admittedly at a "cropped"
resolution,
but they do work.

What's the point of shelling out the bucks for a full frame DSLR, if
you're
only going to be able to shoot "cropped" because the lenses won't cover
the
full frame?

So you don't have to shell out an extra $2000 right away to get a good
ultra-wide zoom.



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