BUT, If you take the camera out of the box, never read the manual,
(charge the battery) and just point it at anything and shoot, you will
get a well exposed photo, as long as you never touch any of the menus.
So for the L.C.D. shooter, it works fine. And it (Z10) comes with 4
colorful frames you can choose from before you take a picture, so your
friends will be impressed when you print the pic out.
Joe ,:-()
On Jan 5, 2009, at 18:56 , keith_w wrote:
ann sanfedele wrote:
You have to remember, P&S cameras are not made to appeal to advanced
photographers like us. They're made for lowest-common-denominator
users, and as such have to be as simple and user friendly as
possible.
Alas, they are not in any way "simple and user friendly"
Hear, hear!
A true point and shoot is a throw away camera that has a fixed
focal length and speed and DOF....
Precisely. Like the old Kodak Brownie. The only moving parts were s
shutter release and a film rewind knob!
The w60,for instance, comes with a book that has over 100 pages!
My Pentax Optio S5i has 147 pages! Hardly a point and shoot.
In fact, most "features" consume only 1 or 2 pages of instruction.
That will tell you how many 'features' the camera offers!
More in the Pentax mind-set of trying to be all things to all people.
While this camera IS quite small, and concealable, it is NOT a P&S
camera, by ANY sort of definition!
They want you to read the whole book first!
Exactly so! Says that on the front cover of my manual! "...before
using the camera."
You and I don't really have to, but someone who just wants to take
some snaps is never going to do that.
I have several friends who thought they would like digital for the
obvious reasons -- no film charges, ease
of getting prints, fits in your pocket, SIMPLE TO USE.... the Z10
and the W60 both have tons of confusing choices aimed at us,
actually - they want to put it all in one.
My point exactly.
Pentax and other companies have to assume that someone taking
snapshots
is going to want the camera to perform exactly the same way every
time
they use it, so they make the camera reset itself unless someone
like
you tells it not to.
It may not make a lot of sense to you, but I'm sure there are a
lot of
people who appreciate it.
John
No one over 30, does, I guarantee..... these cameras are
designed for people who grew up with computers and like cutsey pie
little icons...
they may know nothing about lighting, timing, composing, but they do
seem to like to have lots of little buttons to push...
Pentax tried to make a camera especially to appeal to EVERYONE...
and that is what is screwed up.
THe z10 and w60 DOESN'T do it all for you -- the choices are part
of there selling schtick - The very worst element , which is one
that has nothing to do with photography at all is simply that
the on-off switch is VERY close to the shutter release... and the
buttons feel very much alike...
shooting quickly I hit the wrong one a number of times... that has
nothing to do with my skills as a photographer.
That's a common complaint. As time goes on, some makers have done
what they could to modify that, and make it more distinctive. But,
you're right again.
[...]
sigh - sorry for the digression -- but it is part of the same
fabric of our hyper-techno world... and it's a damn shame.
ann
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