Thanks to everyone for the suggestions, and especially to Paul who applied his lightroom mojo to a copy of the shot.
The good news is that it is in my office parking lot, so that plumbing can be the subject of a lot of attempts. When only the engineers were working 6 day weeks, a shot with an empty parking lot would have been a lot easier, but the CEO just put everyone on 6-day weeks. On the other hand I'll be putting in a few Sundays in the near future. The original lens choice was made by a very simple metric. With the 40, my camera fits in my pocket, which makes wandering out of the office for a short break taking photos a lot more discreet. I'll try it again with the 50/1.4, and will get the 77/1.8 back next week. If anyone near San Jose would like to try their hand at it from soup to nuts, the address is 855 Embedded Way, San Jose CA http://tinyurl.com/cbkboe It is at the end of the road. If you click on "satellite image" you can see my racecar on the trailer at the other end of the office. If you show up in the near future, bring a macro lens, the poppies are coming out: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157614281474768/ Which are another very interesting challenge. There are also quite a few birds around right now. Everything from crows to kites. Most of these were shot within a couple hundred meters of the hydrants: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/collections/72157612874623290/ Some of them as far away as Silver Creek (Blossom Hill) Road. -- Photographs are like sentences, the best ones have both subjects and verbs. Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.