Madame RD wrote:
dom from Paris where the worse spot to be driving is Place Charles de Gaulle ex place de l'étoile ..
I still get the willies, fifteen years later, thinking about the roundabout at the Arc de Triomphe ... if I recall correctly, it was eight lanes wide and thirteen different roads met there, at least three of them major, major roads, like l'Etoile on both sides.
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