For me, the other consideration with the reach of the DA60-250 is my
A300 f4.  I am quite happy using it and get Autofocus and a high
quality 510mm with the AF1.7 tele extender.  It's an easy travel kit.
Regards, Bob S.

On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 8:12 AM, <[email protected]> wrote:
> Doug, you could look at the 70-200 MM F2.8 Simga HSM II Lens. I bought one 
> and like it so far. With a 1.4 convert, it will become a 120 mm to 300 mm 
> F4.0. Not as pricey as the 50-250 Pentax unit. I do not have the 50-250 lens 
> but there is one thing I do not like. That is the way the lens opens up. long 
> barrel comes out from main part. I could be wrong. I know Paul has one, ask 
> him about that.To me that might and will get in the way when I shoot sports 
> in a location where there are other photographers trying to get the same 
> shot..I would rather have an internal focus lens..Joe
> P.S. here are a couple of shot taken with the Simga just after I received it.
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9262999
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9401091
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9262974
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "William Robb" <[email protected]>
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2009 9:51:17 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> Subject: Re: I've got a hole in me arsenal
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Doug Brewer"
> Subject: I've got a hole in me arsenal
>
>
>> so I'm looking at either the DA Star 50-135mm F2.8 ED (IF) SDM or the DA
>> Star 60-250mm F4 ED (IF) SDM and the prices are way different, 500
>> smackers worth at B&H. Is the 60-250 really that much better, and keep in
>> mind that linear thought and I rarely collide.
>>
>> For the difference, I could also get the 21Ltd and a grip for the K-7.
>>
>> What to do, what to do?
>
> Doug, I didn't have to make the decisions you made, as I already have the
> 21mm.
> I haven't handled the 50-135 all that much. I had a pre production unit on
> loan from Pentax Canada (via my pusher) for a while sometime before the lens
> was officially released to the world, and that is my only experience with
> it.
>  I thought it was an excellent lens, but also a lens that shared the same
> problem that I think 80-200mm lenses have on the 135 format, which is that
> they just don't have enough reach for my taste.
> I have an 80-200/2.8 lens which is just about the perfect telephoto zoom on
> the cropped sensor camera, but for the size, a little more reach would be
> nice.
> This was why I was so impatient about the 60-250.
> The 60-250, I am sure you have handled one, is a pretty chunky lens. Much
> bigger, IIRC than the 50-135.
> As far as optical quality is concerned, I doubt that there is a great deal
> of difference between the 50-135 and the 60-250. Both are fine optics. I
> wanted the extra reach, so I chose to wait for the 60-250.
> No regrets, it's a terrific optic.
>
> I guess, think back to your film days, did you find that often the 80-200
> range of zooms was to be too short to float your boat? If so, then the
> 60-250 is the answer, no doubt about it. It has plenty of reach.
>
> Having said this, I couldn't live without the vertical grip now for what I
> shoot. I've been doing a fair number of model shoots, and in this type of
> photography the vertical camera orientation is what I use almost all the
> time.
> The grip rules.
> However, if you spend most of your time shooting landscapes off a tripod,
> there is no pressing reason to get the grip, so it comes down to the 21mm
> lens.
> Do you favour wide angle shots or long telephoto shots more?
> Does your photography style allow for stiched images? If so, then you can
> use a longer lens most of the time to emulate the 21.
>
> I suspect that for most people, the 50-135 coupled with the DA21 will
> probably be the more useful lens combination..
>
> William Robb
>
>
>
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