huh, pentax doesn't have a FF sensor. If they did
it would around $2K like Sony, no?

How many much cheaper non-DA lenses would it take to make
up the extra $800 or so for the FF Penatx body
vs the APS body?

Answer - not many at all. A few at most.
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-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
Adam Maas
Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 6:39 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: OT: Sony Releases A850 FF Camera for $2,000


On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 5:40 PM, J.C. O'Connell<[email protected]>
wrote:
> ff bodies don't need as high a peformance lenses as APS bodies do to 
> achieve same level of system peformance. That's the main appeal of FF 
> bodies. No super tweeked, super performance leneses are required, 
> mortal lenses can be applied to them for same results due to larger 
> sensor format.
>
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> J.C. O'Connell (mailto:[email protected])

The problem is that this is simply not the case in reality. In reality
we have to deal with the fact that lenses capable of performing to the
requirements of current APS-C sensors are significantly less expensive
than the equivalent for a FF sensor.

I can buy a normal zoom capable of outresolving a 12MP APS-C sensor
across it's entire image circle at f5.6 for $600USD (see the Tamron
17-50/2.8 or Sigma 18-50/2.8 HSM or any of several slower but
wider-range zooms like the Sigma 17-70 or Nikkor 16-85VR), but a lens
which offers similar performance on FF will cost me at least $1000
(Canon 24-105L). Ditto for an ultra-wide zoom (Both Sigma 10-20's,
Tokina 12-24/4 or 11-16/2.8) but then the equivalent will cost me $1500
(Canon 16-35L II, Nikkor 14-24/2.8).

And no, primes are not the answer. There are essentially no currently
available primes for FF systems that are wider than 35mm, cheaper than
$1000 USD new and sharp across the frame 2 stops down from wide open on
current 20+MP FF bodies. There are quite a number of primes that can do
that for APS-C (wider than 24mm, cheaper than $1000, sharp across the
frame 2 stops down) including a number of FF primes that can't do that
on current FF bodies.

A nice theory, but in practice the real market limitation of FF is lens
cost, not body cost.

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