if the FF body had same sensor pixel density as proposed by others
as their best APS sensors, cropping the FF image would give same
result as the APS, in that case the APS body doesn't have any
"lower cost long teles" advantage, you could do same with the
FF body if desired. Just crop the FF image to APS size.

Not only that, but even if the FF sensor were same resolution
as the APS sensors the tele performance would most likely be
better with the longer F.L. lenses on FF than the shorter FL
lenses on APS because generally speaking long teles are not
the sharpest tools in the shed and the increase in format
size from APS to FF helps soft lenses more than it helps razor sharp
ones.

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-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
John Francis
Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 8:51 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: OT: Sony Releases A850 FF Camera for $2,000


On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 07:19:45PM -0400, Adam Maas wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 7:00 PM, J.C. O'Connell<[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> > huh, pentax doesn't have a FF sensor. If they did
> > it would around $2K like Sony, no?
> >
> > How many much cheaper non-DA lenses would it take to make up the 
> > extra $800 or so for the FF Penatx body vs the APS body?
> >
> > Answer - not many at all. A few at most.
> > --
> > J.C. O'Connell (mailto:[email protected])
> 
> The question is 'how many of these cheaper non-DA lenses exist' and 
> the response is none. Nor do they exist in the three systems that 
> offer both APS-C and FF bodies. Nor will they exist anytime soon. The 
> reality is you're going to pay around double for FF lenses which do 
> not restrict FF sensor performance with current sensors than you will 
> for APS-C lenses which do not restrict current APS-C sensor 
> performance, this applies to normal and wide zooms as well as wide 
> primes (there are plenty of normal and longer primes and telephoto 
> zooms which are up to both APS-C and FF sensors, but there's no money 
> to be saved there either since the ones which can perform adequately 
> on only one type of sensor are doing so on APS-C).

Plus, for telephotos, the "crop factor" works to the advantage of APS-C.
It's a lot cheaper to buy a 200mm/f2.8 or 400mm/f5.6 than it is to buy a
300mm/f2.8 or 600mm/f5.6.

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