Dude, I was trying not to get fired up ... but I just can't help it on
this topic. Folks, this one runs a bit long, so you might ought just to press the Delete key.

Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

I don't use anything from Microsoft.

And I don't use anything from Apple. So?

In order to interact with the
system wide color management system and printers in Mac OS X, however,
Adobe has to put profiles and alias links to profiles where the OS can
get to them. The rest of what it installs is all put in well known
places where third-party stuff goes.

So, in order to vindicate Adobe you indict Apple.  That's OK with me.  I
understand just exactly how fouled up Microsoft is, having dealt with
their vermin since 1981. As an experienced practitioner, I have to assume that Apple has its own particular forms of despicability. I'm nearly as conversant in Adobe's suckage (on various Windows and *nix-based platforms) as Microsoft's, having dealt with it nearly as long.

I started out with a long explication of my background here.  I decided
that was a bad idea and only prolonged an already painful experience for most readers. For those of you that are interested, here's an abbreviated account of my background as listed on my LinkedIn account
(you have to be a LinkedIn user):

<http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=41774161&trk=tab_pro>

Net, net, I've been writing system-level code for external distribution, and developing the processes to do it reliably without screwing our customers, for over 25 years, so I'm not some guy from a garage that "knows" HTML.

There are other bits that need to be managed, [...] To change that
means thousands of programmer-hours spent very expensively to no
particular benefit to anyone.

Delving into and explaining the basic stupidity of so much of the "design" and "features" of different OSes and versions won't help anyone here. However, based on my personal experience, Adobe (among others) really, desperately, needs to acknowledge that it's /my/ /fucking/ /computer/! And do what I tell it to do /in/ /every/ /case/, not just when it suits them.

And I'm not talking about stuff foisted upon them by the OS vendor, like where ICC profiles "live". I'm talking about installing by a user other than an administrator/root. I'm talking about when I tell you to install in /boing/frodo/photoshop (or wherever) that you don't touch /anything/ else unless you ask and receive my explicit permission.

If they've finally gotten religion, then bless them.  They lost my
support years ago by flaunting my instructions, asking where I want
things to go and screwing around with other things, anyway.  For the
past several years I've been replacing Adobe products as fast as I can,
and I'll continue to do so, because they (among others, as I said) have
shown, IMO, unbridled contempt for me as a paying consumer. They offer to sell me a car and insist on messing with my plumbing if I buy the car.

If I didn't make a shit load of money off Microsoft's stupidity, I'd be
doing the same thing with them.  Since I do make a lot of money off
them, I'm willing to sacrifice a couple of computers and virtual
machines to their "hegemony" and writing it off as a depreciated capex
or expense whenever legally permissible. But Microsoft's surely no better, that fat load of arrogant pricks.

IOW, software vendors are like politicians in that all of both suck in one way or another, the only question is whether you can make it work for you.

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Thanks,
DougF (KG4LMZ)


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