I just purchased all the Beatles remastered CD's in Stereo within the
last two months.  There is a HUGE difference that I can hear, compared
to the earlier CD's.   Yay!

OTOH...That kind of sucks because now I want to hear what they sound
like on LP ($30- $50/per new LP), with a decent system.

I'm guessing that even on mediocre playback gear I'll hear more on
LPs, based on my lone, recently purchased, 20+ year old Beatles
compilation LP.

It's getting better all the the time, here comes the sun, baby you can
drive my car, beep beep, mmm, beep beep, YEAH!

Tom



On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 4:26 AM, J.C. O'Connell <[email protected]> wrote:
> Actually, no, old CDs are not in general really much better mastered
> than new ones. While the loudness wars and dynamic compression
> do degrade CD sound on many newer CDs, many many older CDs didn't have
> this
> compression added at all but are nevertheless still awful sounding
> compared to the LP due to GENERALLY poor CD mastering (wrong tapes,
> poorly aligned
> tape machines, poor A/D converters, etc.). In some cases, the
> remastered editions of a given CD are way BETTER than the
> original CD.
>
> But it cannot be overstated, even with perfect mastering,
> the CD format, at its best, cannot match the LP format at
> its best. There is an inherent difference in quality between
> the formats even if you cast aside any mastering or over
> processing problems CD often has.... In other words, with
> truly great hi rez master recordings, NO CD version will never sound as
> good
> as a well mastered LP version with good LP playback gear,
> even if you don't "add loudness" to the CD version.
>
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> -----Original Message-----
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> Boros Attila
> Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 3:15 AM
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> Subject: Re: OT: Vinyl vs. Digital
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>
> Hello Tom,
>
> Thursday, November 12, 2009, 8:46:48 AM, you wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
> TC> I've sat here most of the day listening to some vintage LP'S (OK,
> TC> 99% Beatles with a little Nat King Cole, Chicago, Heart, Macca, and
> TC> classical thrown in).  This is with a $31 amp, a vintage turntable
> TC> and a cheap Audio-Technica cartridge, and a 25 year old pair of
> TC> speakers.
>
> TC> I may never buy another CD again.  The amount of musical detail I
> TC> can hear and the dynamics of the music (can't describe it any
> TC> better) are just superb.  It sounds like real music and real voices.
>
> Old recordings are much better mastered than new ones. This is sad but
> true. Some references:
>
> http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/17777619/the_death_of_high_fideli
> ty/print
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Gmex_4hreQ
>
> Enjoy your new-old equipment:)
>
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> Attila
>
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