No, I don't agree, just like you, too many people assume that their music is "fine" and they THINK they are enjoying it to the max, but they are simply mistaken, that it CAN sound better and they COULD enjoy it even more. I speak on absolute terms on some things because sometimes they are absolute. The very best analog records ARE better sounding/more realistic sounding/higher fidelity than the very best CDs or MP3s. That's not just an opinion of mine, it's a consensus of most audio experts so I don't present it as an opinion, its closer to a matter of fact.
-- J.C. O'Connell (mailto:[email protected]) Join the CD PLAYER & DISC Discussions : http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdplayers/ http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdsound/ -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tom C Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 1:46 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: OT: Vinyl vs. Digital You too are right Paul. JCO... talking to you. Damn... you have a tendency to express yourself in very strong absolute terms which are misread my many. Understanding that, I totally agree with what you trying to express regarding the way analog music played on analog gear sounds. I was totally blown away by what I heard on a 25 year old 40W/channel eBay amp ($31), a 25 year old set of speakers ($100), and a refurbished TT + cartridge ($425... I bet it can be had for far less, if careful, but I was insistent on a pristine example). We probably need to stop arguing the point and accept that everyone enjoys music on whatever media and format they hear it. :) Tom On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 7:29 PM, paul stenquist <[email protected]> wrote: > JCO: > You're right of course. But people are going to continue to try to > provoke you, so you might as well let it go. Paul > On Nov 13, 2009, at 8:27 PM, J.C. O'Connell wrote: > >> it does if the music and recording is truly sublime quality, when >> that is lost you never even know what you missed, let alone enjoy it >> just as much. Music isnt just about words and beats and melodies, its >> about SOUNDS, sounds of instruments and sounds can be beautiful, when >> the sound aint right, you ARE not fully enjoying what is there for >> the enjoyment, no matter how many times you say you are, you cant >> enjoy what you cant hear. >> >> -- >> J.C. O'Connell (mailto:[email protected]) >> Join the CD PLAYER & DISC Discussions : >> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdplayers/ >> http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdsound/ >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf >> Of David Savage >> Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 8:00 PM >> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> Subject: Re: OT: Vinyl vs. Digital >> >> >> Ditto. >> >> The technical perfection of the recording/playback medium don't >> matter much compared to the "meat" of the music. >> >> On 14/11/2009, steve harley <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> On 2009-11-13 12:17 , J.C. O'Connell wrote: >>>> >>>> You wouldn't say perfect or highest possible fideility is overrated >>>> if you heard some of the worlds greatest recordings in all their >>>> glory. >>> >>> please don't tell me what _i'd_ say >>> >>> i've spent a lifetime enjoying a wide variety of great live music; >>> while i understand fidelity and the limitations of digital (and >>> analog) audio, and while i'm somewhat awed by top-notch equipment >>> and its output, i have no problem with "good enough" for recorded >>> music; good enough is a holistic evaluation that everone will make >>> differently -- for me it's more about the expression and "heart" of >>> the music than it is about absolute fidelity; even with mediocre >>> equipment and lots of background noise i can really enjoy music; i >>> think that sense of "good enough" holds for a lot of others too, >>> based >> >>> on the prevalence of car audio, iPods, etc. >>> >>> it's pretty much same with photography for me >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> >>> follow the directions. >>> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> [email protected] >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above >> and follow the directions. >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> [email protected] >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above >> and follow the directions. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > [email protected] > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
