Hey Bob, what's the gratuitous shot at us for Prohibition in the '20's?!!
Wow, that's a long time to hold a grudge!

And yes, we've all done underage drinking and underage drunk.
But until you've raised three teenagers, don't presume you know how.
No matter what you do and what they know, it's a treacherous time.
Each child matures at a different pace.

And bringing traffic accidents into this discussion is perfectly logical.
90% of the kids in the USA have access to a car.
For most of them, it's their first experience at freedom.
When that's mixed with alcohol, the results are tragic.
(It's not their skills Bill, it's their recklessness via booze.)
It's a leading cause of death for teens.

Regards,  Bob S.


On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 5:24 PM, William Robb <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Sullivan"
> Subject: Re: Very OT: Regulations for drinking alcohol
>
>
> I sat on the local liquor commission for a number of years.
> They heard new liquor license petitions and controlled buy violations
> and made recommends.
> (Yes, they used under aged teens to test the existing establishments
> for compliance.
> An underage teen would present an under aged drivers license for
> checking/refusal.)
>
> We heard one incident that really bothered me and shows the problems.
> Detectives were in an unmarked car at a local convenience center.
> They noticed a van of kids approach another older teen entering a liquor
> store.
> They got the older kid (with a fake ID) to buy them a case of beer.
> The kids, 16 to 13 years old, were going to drink the beer while driving
> around.
>
> So imagine some night you're gonna meet a 16 year old in a 3,000 pound van
> who has just downed a 6 pack of beer for fun.  All his inhibitions are
> released,
> and he's like to see how fast this van can go...
> Or maybe your wife & kids will meet him on their way home.
>
> You want to get shit faced, falling down drunk at home, I'd say go for it.
> But most parents won't tolerate that behavior a home,
> so the teens go out driving in the car.
>
>
> -------------------------
>
> Yes well, you guys proved that prohibition doesn't work back in the 1920s,
> and yet to this day, we are all still practicing prohibitionists.
> If you really want a teenager to try something, make it illegal and tell him
> not to do it.
> We were all teenagers once, we all know how true this is, and yet we refuse
> to learn from our own life experiences.
> It's just stupid that we treat teeneagers like infants until they rach an
> arbitrary age of majority and then suddenly expect them to be responsible
> adults.
> We've given them the opportunity to do it, but we've taught them nothing of
> the effects of doing it?
> So they go off on their own and learn about it with a bunch of other
> teenagers who are equally ignorant.
> So who's fault is it really when that 16 year old piles his mom's minivan
> into your wife and kids?
> All we've done is teach him rudimentary driving skills.
>
> William Robb
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