I hadn't looked at this thread in a while. Clearly the Pentax FF issue is far more complicated than I realized.
On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 12:11 AM, P. J. Alling <[email protected]> wrote: > On 2/27/2010 12:50 PM, John Sessoms wrote: >> >> From: "P. J. Alling" >>> >>> On 2/26/2010 9:54 PM, John Sessoms wrote: >>>> >>>> > From: "P. J. Alling" >>>>> >>>>> >> On 2/25/2010 8:30 PM, John Sessoms wrote: >>>> >>>> > >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>> > I'm pretty sure they do already get to vote for President, so >>>>>> >>>>>> >>> there > must be some way to count their "electoral" vote. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>> > >>>>> >>>>> >> For them it's a beauty contest vote. It doesn't count they don't >> >>>>> >> have representation in congress so they don;t get an electoral vote. >>>> >>>> > >>>> > Apparently I misunderstood how it works. >>>> > >>>> > Puerto Ricans are U.S. citizens, but residents of Puerto Rico, Guam > >>>> > and the U.S. Virgin Islands do not vote in the national elections > >>>> > unless >>>> > they're registered to vote in one of the states or in DC, in > which case >>>> > they should be able to vote an absentee ballot for the > district in >>>> > which >>>> > they're registered if they happen to be back in > Puerto Rico. >>>> > >>>> > Persons born in Puerto Rico, Guam and the U.S. Virgin Islands are U.S. >>>> > > Citizens. >>>> > >>>> > Persons born in the Northern Mariana Islands and American Samoa are > >>>> > U.S. Nationals, but are not U.S. Citizens. U.S. Nationals may reside > >>>> > and >>>> > work in the United States. They don't have to have a green card or > work >>>> > permit. They are not prohibited by federal law from voting in > national >>>> > elections, but no state permits them to do so. >>>> > >>>> > U.S. Nationals may apply for citizenship under the same rules as > >>>> > resident aliens. >>>> > >>>> > DC doesn't get representation in Congress, but they do have 3 > >>>> > electors; the number they would be entitled to IF DC was a state. >>>> > >>> >>> I don't know where you got that last one from but I believe it's >>> incorrect. DC has no electors, and cannot, the number of electors is >>> defined in the constitution as the number of senators plus the number of >>> congressmen, since DC has neither then DC has no electors. For DC to be >>> granted electors without representation in Congress would require a >>> constitutional amendment, which is not likely to happen. >> >> Amendment 23 - Presidential Vote for District of Columbia >> >> 1. The District constituting the seat of Government of the United States >> shall appoint in such manner as the Congress may direct: A number of >> electors of President and Vice President equal to the whole number of >> Senators and Representatives in Congress to which the District would be >> entitled if it were a State, but in no event more than the least populous >> State; they shall be in addition to those appointed by the States, but they >> shall be considered, for the purposes of the election of President and Vice >> President, to be electors appointed by a State; and they shall meet in the >> District and perform such duties as provided by the twelfth article of >> amendment. >> >> 2. The Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate >> legislation. >> >> Ratified 29 Mar 1961 >> > Aparently I was wrong, however I happen to think this amendment is also > wrong, it violates one of the rationals for having a federal district. > Perhaps that's why I'd prefer to forget it. Too bad amendments to the > constitution can't be declared unconstitutional. > > -- > {\rtf1\ansi\ansicpg1252\deff0\deflang1033{\fonttbl{\f0\fnil\fcharset0 > Courier New;}} > \viewkind4\uc1\pard\f0\fs20 I've just upgraded to Thunderbird 3.0 and the > interface subtly weird.\par > } > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > [email protected] > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
