You mean that sometimes we aren't?
On Mar 7, 2010, at 6:54 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:
So we're on to sex now?
On 3/1/2010 8:02 AM, Tom C wrote:
It looks like it'll take an act of congress to get one.
On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 8:45 AM, Steven
Desjardins<[email protected]> wrote:
I hadn't looked at this thread in a while. Clearly the Pentax FF
issue is far more complicated than I realized.
On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 12:11 AM, P. J. Alling
<[email protected]> wrote:
On 2/27/2010 12:50 PM, John Sessoms wrote:
From: "P. J. Alling"
On 2/26/2010 9:54 PM, John Sessoms wrote:
From: "P. J. Alling"
On 2/25/2010 8:30 PM, John Sessoms wrote:
I'm pretty sure they do already get to vote for
President, so
there> must be some way to count their "electoral" vote.
For them it's a beauty contest vote. It doesn't count they
don't>>
have representation in congress so they don;t get an
electoral vote.
Apparently I misunderstood how it works.
Puerto Ricans are U.S. citizens, but residents of Puerto
Rico, Guam>
and the U.S. Virgin Islands do not vote in the national
elections> unless
they're registered to vote in one of the states or in DC,
in> which case
they should be able to vote an absentee ballot for the>
district in which
they're registered if they happen to be back in> Puerto Rico.
Persons born in Puerto Rico, Guam and the U.S. Virgin Islands
are U.S.
Citizens.
Persons born in the Northern Mariana Islands and American
Samoa are>
U.S. Nationals, but are not U.S. Citizens. U.S. Nationals may
reside> and
work in the United States. They don't have to have a green
card or> work
permit. They are not prohibited by federal law from voting
in> national
elections, but no state permits them to do so.
U.S. Nationals may apply for citizenship under the same rules
as>
resident aliens.
DC doesn't get representation in Congress, but they do have 3>
electors; the number they would be entitled to IF DC was a
state.
I don't know where you got that last one from but I believe it's
incorrect. DC has no electors, and cannot, the number of
electors is
defined in the constitution as the number of senators plus the
number of
congressmen, since DC has neither then DC has no electors. For
DC to be
granted electors without representation in Congress would
require a
constitutional amendment, which is not likely to happen.
Amendment 23 - Presidential Vote for District of Columbia
1. The District constituting the seat of Government of the
United States
shall appoint in such manner as the Congress may direct: A
number of
electors of President and Vice President equal to the whole
number of
Senators and Representatives in Congress to which the District
would be
entitled if it were a State, but in no event more than the least
populous
State; they shall be in addition to those appointed by the
States, but they
shall be considered, for the purposes of the election of
President and Vice
President, to be electors appointed by a State; and they shall
meet in the
District and perform such duties as provided by the twelfth
article of
amendment.
2. The Congress shall have power to enforce this article by
appropriate
legislation.
Ratified 29 Mar 1961
Aparently I was wrong, however I happen to think this amendment
is also
wrong, it violates one of the rationals for having a federal
district.
Perhaps that's why I'd prefer to forget it. Too bad amendments
to the
constitution can't be declared unconstitutional.
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