If that's true then Cotty's hat is safe.
On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 8:02 AM, Tom C <caka...@gmail.com> wrote:
> It looks like it'll take an act of congress to get one.
>
> On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 8:45 AM, Steven Desjardins <drd1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I hadn't looked at this thread in a while. Clearly the Pentax FF
>> issue is far more complicated than I realized.
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 12:11 AM, P. J. Alling
>> <webstertwenty...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 2/27/2010 12:50 PM, John Sessoms wrote:
>>>>
>>>> From: "P. J. Alling"
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2/26/2010 9:54 PM, John Sessoms wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > From: "P. J. Alling"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >> On 2/25/2010 8:30 PM, John Sessoms wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>> > I'm pretty sure they do already get to vote for President, so
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>> there > must be some way to count their "electoral" vote.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >>> >
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >> For them it's a beauty contest vote. It doesn't count they don't >>
>>>>>>> >> have representation in congress so they don;t get an electoral vote.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Apparently I misunderstood how it works.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Puerto Ricans are U.S. citizens, but residents of Puerto Rico, Guam >
>>>>>> > and the U.S. Virgin Islands do not vote in the national elections >
>>>>>> > unless
>>>>>> > they're registered to vote in one of the states or in DC, in > which
>>>>>> > case
>>>>>> > they should be able to vote an absentee ballot for the > district in
>>>>>> > which
>>>>>> > they're registered if they happen to be back in > Puerto Rico.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Persons born in Puerto Rico, Guam and the U.S. Virgin Islands are U.S.
>>>>>> > > Citizens.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Persons born in the Northern Mariana Islands and American Samoa are >
>>>>>> > U.S. Nationals, but are not U.S. Citizens. U.S. Nationals may reside >
>>>>>> > and
>>>>>> > work in the United States. They don't have to have a green card or >
>>>>>> > work
>>>>>> > permit. They are not prohibited by federal law from voting in >
>>>>>> > national
>>>>>> > elections, but no state permits them to do so.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > U.S. Nationals may apply for citizenship under the same rules as >
>>>>>> > resident aliens.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > DC doesn't get representation in Congress, but they do have 3 >
>>>>>> > electors; the number they would be entitled to IF DC was a state.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't know where you got that last one from but I believe it's
>>>>> incorrect. DC has no electors, and cannot, the number of electors is
>>>>> defined in the constitution as the number of senators plus the number of
>>>>> congressmen, since DC has neither then DC has no electors. For DC to be
>>>>> granted electors without representation in Congress would require a
>>>>> constitutional amendment, which is not likely to happen.
>>>>
>>>> Amendment 23 - Presidential Vote for District of Columbia
>>>>
>>>> 1. The District constituting the seat of Government of the United States
>>>> shall appoint in such manner as the Congress may direct: A number of
>>>> electors of President and Vice President equal to the whole number of
>>>> Senators and Representatives in Congress to which the District would be
>>>> entitled if it were a State, but in no event more than the least populous
>>>> State; they shall be in addition to those appointed by the States, but they
>>>> shall be considered, for the purposes of the election of President and Vice
>>>> President, to be electors appointed by a State; and they shall meet in the
>>>> District and perform such duties as provided by the twelfth article of
>>>> amendment.
>>>>
>>>> 2. The Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate
>>>> legislation.
>>>>
>>>> Ratified 29 Mar 1961
>>>>
>>> Aparently I was wrong, however I happen to think this amendment is also
>>> wrong, it violates one of the rationals for having a federal district.
>>> Perhaps that's why I'd prefer to forget it. Too bad amendments to the
>>> constitution can't be declared unconstitutional.
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