It looks like it'll take an act of congress to get one. On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 8:45 AM, Steven Desjardins <[email protected]> wrote: > I hadn't looked at this thread in a while. Clearly the Pentax FF > issue is far more complicated than I realized. > > On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 12:11 AM, P. J. Alling > <[email protected]> wrote: >> On 2/27/2010 12:50 PM, John Sessoms wrote: >>> >>> From: "P. J. Alling" >>>> >>>> On 2/26/2010 9:54 PM, John Sessoms wrote: >>>>> >>>>> > From: "P. J. Alling" >>>>>> >>>>>> >> On 2/25/2010 8:30 PM, John Sessoms wrote: >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>> > I'm pretty sure they do already get to vote for President, so >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>> there > must be some way to count their "electoral" vote. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> >> For them it's a beauty contest vote. It doesn't count they don't >> >>>>>> >> have representation in congress so they don;t get an electoral vote. >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> > Apparently I misunderstood how it works. >>>>> > >>>>> > Puerto Ricans are U.S. citizens, but residents of Puerto Rico, Guam > >>>>> > and the U.S. Virgin Islands do not vote in the national elections > >>>>> > unless >>>>> > they're registered to vote in one of the states or in DC, in > which >>>>> > case >>>>> > they should be able to vote an absentee ballot for the > district in >>>>> > which >>>>> > they're registered if they happen to be back in > Puerto Rico. >>>>> > >>>>> > Persons born in Puerto Rico, Guam and the U.S. Virgin Islands are U.S. >>>>> > > Citizens. >>>>> > >>>>> > Persons born in the Northern Mariana Islands and American Samoa are > >>>>> > U.S. Nationals, but are not U.S. Citizens. U.S. Nationals may reside > >>>>> > and >>>>> > work in the United States. They don't have to have a green card or > >>>>> > work >>>>> > permit. They are not prohibited by federal law from voting in > national >>>>> > elections, but no state permits them to do so. >>>>> > >>>>> > U.S. Nationals may apply for citizenship under the same rules as > >>>>> > resident aliens. >>>>> > >>>>> > DC doesn't get representation in Congress, but they do have 3 > >>>>> > electors; the number they would be entitled to IF DC was a state. >>>>> > >>>> >>>> I don't know where you got that last one from but I believe it's >>>> incorrect. DC has no electors, and cannot, the number of electors is >>>> defined in the constitution as the number of senators plus the number of >>>> congressmen, since DC has neither then DC has no electors. For DC to be >>>> granted electors without representation in Congress would require a >>>> constitutional amendment, which is not likely to happen. >>> >>> Amendment 23 - Presidential Vote for District of Columbia >>> >>> 1. The District constituting the seat of Government of the United States >>> shall appoint in such manner as the Congress may direct: A number of >>> electors of President and Vice President equal to the whole number of >>> Senators and Representatives in Congress to which the District would be >>> entitled if it were a State, but in no event more than the least populous >>> State; they shall be in addition to those appointed by the States, but they >>> shall be considered, for the purposes of the election of President and Vice >>> President, to be electors appointed by a State; and they shall meet in the >>> District and perform such duties as provided by the twelfth article of >>> amendment. >>> >>> 2. The Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate >>> legislation. >>> >>> Ratified 29 Mar 1961 >>> >> Aparently I was wrong, however I happen to think this amendment is also >> wrong, it violates one of the rationals for having a federal district. >> Perhaps that's why I'd prefer to forget it. Too bad amendments to the >> constitution can't be declared unconstitutional. >> >> -- >> {\rtf1\ansi\ansicpg1252\deff0\deflang1033{\fonttbl{\f0\fnil\fcharset0 >> Courier New;}} >> \viewkind4\uc1\pard\f0\fs20 I've just upgraded to Thunderbird 3.0 and the >> interface subtly weird.\par >> } >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> [email protected] >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. >> > > > > -- > Steve Desjardins > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > [email protected] > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. >
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