Well, I am left-eyed also.  This is not a problem on the K-x.  By
default the 4 way does not alter focus points.  It actually is a
quick launch of the items that are found in the Fn button on
DS/K10/K20 bodies.  On press quicker.  Also the controller is very
slightly recessed so it is less accidental to press the buttons.  In
practice it seems to work quite well.

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Bruce


Thursday, March 25, 2010, 8:59:55 AM, you wrote:

JF> On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 11:14:13AM -0400, David J Brooks wrote:
>> On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Bruce Dayton <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>> > I'll do my best to answer.
>> >
>> > Focus points are changed via menu or quick button access. ?You see on
>> > the lcd which focus point(s) is active. ?For someone who changes them
>> > all the time shot by shot, this would be very clumsy. ?For someone
>> > who picks one and leaves it, it works pretty well.
>> 
>> That would be me, pick and stay, so no issue there.

JF> That's how I like to work.  But I'm left-eyed, so I often find on my
JF> old Pentax AF bodies that I've accidentally nose-pressed the four-way
JF> controller and shifted the focus point somewhere else.  But at least
JF> I can see that in the viewfinder when I don't get focus confirmation
JF> at the AF point I'm expecting.

JF> Would this be a problem on the K-x?  Or does the four-way controller
JF> not select the AF point by default?  That was a problem with the K-7
JF> when it was first released, but it got fixed in a firmware upgrade.
JF> It looks to me as though I'd have one or other problem with the K-x.


>> 
>> >There is a new
>> > choice besides the center, single point or all points - it is center
>> > cluster - think of it more like center weighted vs spot metering, but
>> > for AF instead. ?It uses the center 5 points and gives a broader base
>> > to work from when the subject may be slightly off center. ?In
>> > practice it works rather well and doesn't have the performance
>> > penalties of camera working with all points.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Humm, interesting idea. Might be a good system for me.
>> 
>> 
>> >So far, I have found
>> > the K-x to be better at AF than the K20, especially at focus
>> > tracking. ?I have also found the K20 to be better than the K10 at
>> > focusing across the board.
>> 
>> So i have heard, which is good.
>> 
>> >
>> > As to kit lens - it is the same optics as the other kit lenses.
>> > Rather good for what it is. ?I suspect, that final size of print may
>> > have something to do with acceptability.
>> 
>> 8x10 is about all they would produce, me, maybe an 11x14 once in a while.
>> 
>> 
>> >The other thing to consider
>> > is the speed which affects DOF. ?If you want a real shallow portrait,
>> > f/3.5-5.6 is not as good. ?My daughters use the kit lenses all the
>> > time for their portrait stuff and they look just fine. ?I personally
>> > use the DA* 16-50/2.8 or equivalent rather than the kit lens. ?But
>> > when size and weight are paramount, the kit lens gets the nod.
>> 
>> I;'m thinking more for the outdoor equine portrait work. As long as
>> the back ground has a slight blur to it, should be fine. Any thing for
>> the wedding will be mostly the DAF 50 2.8 or the 77 ltd. I don't have
>> anything smaller than the 50 right now. Oh wait, i have the A 28,
>> which i like, so good there.
>> 
>> >
>> > The high ISO is plenty good enough - the bigger issue would be
>> > control of lighting. ?If you want catchlights in eyes, or control of
>> > shadows, then you may need flash or reflectors no matter how much
>> > light you have.
>> 
>> Ya hopefully i can get someone, parent Liz etc to hold a reflector for
>> me. They want as much natural light and as little flash as main source
>> as possible. I have not seen the hall yet, but the flash would surely
>> come out there.
>> 
>> >As for needing flash as the main illuminator of the
>> > subject, the high ISO will help you there. ?Here is a shot at ISO
>> > 3200 with no flash fill or reflectors:
>> > http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/imgp1200-1.htm
>> >
>> > Since my son is the proud owner of my old K10D, I don't use it at all
>> > anymore, but do have the K20D. ?The K20 has worked a little better
>> > than the K10 with flash from all my usage (lots of weddings and
>> > portraits with both).
>> 
>> My K10D is just so hit and miss, and i get much better luck with my
>> D200 so i use that if its flash as main source or fill.
>> 
>> 
>> >?So far, the K-x seems to do a little better
>> > with metering than the K20. ?Not having needed as much flash because
>> > of the high ISO capability, I haven't done extensive comparisons. ?I
>> > am pretty confident that it will outperform the K10D.
>> 
>> Glad to hear about the metering.
>> >
>> > I can say that right now, the K-x is more my primary camera than the
>> > K20, which is more of a primary camera than the K10. ?There are very
>> > few things the K20 can do better than the K-x. ?If I had to choose
>> > one body, it would probably be the K-x. ?As it stands right now, if I
>> > only take one body with me, it is the K-x. ?If I take both bodies,
>> > the K-x is the primary. ?I strongly suspect you would do the same
>> > with your K10.
>> 
>> Probably.:-)
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> Dave
>> >
>> > I hope this helps.
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Bruce
>> >
>> >
>> > Thursday, March 25, 2010, 7:14:24 AM, you wrote:
>> >
>> > DJB> -It seem there are not focus points visible in the finder, but i
>> > DJB> assume they are set via the menu.? Is that correct.
>> > DJB> -Any comments on the kit lens that comes with it. Would it be a decent
>> > DJB> lens to do out door portraits of the equine and owner persuasion.?
>> > DJB> -If the high ISO is that good, i'l assume for natural light, say a
>> > DJB> person or persons near a window with diffused light would work well.
>> >
>> > DJB> -How is it with the AF 360 flash, and better than my K10D for 
>> > "keepers"
>> >
>> > DJB> Just thinking of the K-x as my second, or even first camera for an
>> > DJB> upcoming gig in May and the wedding.
>> >
>> > DJB> Dave
>> >
>> >
>> >
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>> >
>> >
>> >
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