On May 1, 2010, at 17:46 , steve harley wrote:

On 2010-05-01 17:31 , Rob Studdert wrote:
That's not what I said. I simply said if the need arose (which it has) then you are forced into using iTunes, no other portable audio players
require this.

each portable audio player has its strengths & weaknesses -- you have a choice; but if you want to copy files directly to and from an iPod, it's slightly hidden (because apple is ruthless about simplicity, something i don't like either), but it's not really that hard; here's the first hit i had on a how-to search:

<http://lifehacker.com/105256/how-to-copy-songs-from-your-ipod-to-your-pc >

phone/touch/pad devices are harder; you have to jailbreak them, which is a high barrier for most people; the iPhone is part of a more highly-integrated system than the iPod; overall that integration is part of the value, or not, which you evaluate when you choose to buy, or not


I don't know if you can use other than iTunes to "play" songs on your iPod. But many of them can be used as hard drives/storage devices, platter type (Classic) or RAM based (Nano).

All you need to do it is check a box when you first set them up, or at a later date if you wish. Which leads me to believe if there is software out there (and when is there ever not) that will let you play ANY kind of music file from a disk, it can be made to play on Apple's iPod.

The ladders and hoops Apple makes you go through with iTunes is to keep you from making multiple copies of the DRM protected and purchased songs that you get from their iTunes Store online. This is something Apple had to set up to get the needed permissions from the various record labels. iTunes and the iPods support many types of encoded digital music; Audio formats supported: AAC (8 to 320 Kbps), Protected AAC (from iTunes Store), HE-AAC, MP3 (8 to 320 Kbps), MP3 VBR, Audible (formats 2, 3, 4, Audible Enhanced Audio, AAX, and AAX+), Apple Lossless, AIFF, and WAV and of course video; Support for 480p and 576p component TV out and can play H.264 video, up to 1.5 Mbps, 640 by 480 pixels, 30 frames per second, Low-Complexity version of the H.264 Baseline Profile with AAC-LC audio up to 160 Kbps, 48kHz, stereo audio in .m4v, .mp4, and .mov file formats; H.264 video, up to 2.5 Mbps, 640 by 480 pixels, 30 frames per second, Baseline Profile up to Level 3.0 with AAC-LC audio up to 160 Kbps, 48kHz, stereo audio in .m4v, .mp4, and .mov file formats; MPEG-4 video, up to 2.5 Mbps, 640 by 480 pixels, 30 frames per second, Simple Profile with AAC-LC audio up to 160 Kbps, 48kHz, stereo audio in .m4v, .mp4, and .mov file formats.

That's a bit more than your average "MP-3" player.
Accessibility? go to http://www.apple.com/accessibility/itunes/ipodtouch.html and you 'll see voice control, gesture controlled screen for those who cannot see the screen, 21 languages that it can speak or obey (in voiceover). You can control many aspects with a "rotor" movement, like a dial on a piece of audio equipment. Volume, Menus selections, or moving through text a character at a time.


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