> I've been considering getting a ringlight for closeup and macro
> photography.  The choices of Pentax equipment are the no-longer-made
> AF-080C, and the newer AF-140C.

Thanks for the info about the ringlights.  To rehash a bit...

The big difference between the AF-080C and the AF-140C is: The AF-140C
has modeling lights and can fire either L/R/L+R strobes so you can
control the light and provide contrast, even at macro scale.

Timothy Sherburne mentioned:

> John Shaw's "John Shaw's Closeups in Nature" (ISBN 0817440526) is a great
> book for getting started with macro photography. He shuns ring flashes in
> favor of using small ordinary flashes mounted on a "butterfly bracket". And,
> indeed, his images do make use of shadow perfectly.

I took a look at the book, has a lot of good info.  However it made me
realize that perhaps "Macro photography" is the wrong term to describe
what I'm trying to do.   It looks like a good book about Macro, though.

Jostein mentioned:
> However, there's a lot of nice things that can be done with ordinary
> flashes too. Take a look at Mark Cassino's site;
> http://www.markcassino.com/index.htm
> he's using a Z-1p with a A*200/4 macro and a AF500-FTZ.

Ahhh, I remember reading that now that you mention it.   Same note
as with the Shaw boo, though ... perhaps Macro is the wrong term.

Describing the subjects that I want to photograph as "macro" may be
misleading.   Most of the things I want to photograph in this style
are typically quite a bit larger than the negative, so perhaps 4:1
or 3:1 at the best -- with most work requiring less magnification.
Because of the non-macro size of the objects (for example a model RR
locomotive or some other scale object), in addition to being small
one often needs a great DOF to record the object.  So, that is one
thing a bit different from "Macro" work which is done at such a
high mag that DOF is very small.  The next difference is that the
subject often has a number of interfering structural details which
cast shadows when using a strobe on or off camera.

The ideal setup for shooting subjects in this vein would probably be
some sort of "light stage" which reflects the light of the strobe a bit
to diffuse it and eliminate the shadows.  However, that doesn't work
so well when you are at random venues and trying to photograph these
items.  Multiple off-camera strobes only work so-so, since they all
cast shadows.  They are also a chore to setup when you don't have the
time or leisure or environment to do so.

So ... I was thinking that perhaps a ringlight is the right solution;
it is easily portable, it will push all the shadows to locations that
can't be seen by the lens.  If I use it in combination with a second,
easily portable, strobe to provide some contrast and shadow so that things
look 3d .. but without huge black strobe shadows.

Comments, suggestions!?
Thanks again!
Bolo -- Josef T. Burger
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