Thank you, Nick.

I'd never heard of framing referred to as "crop in camera" before. Learn something new every day, huh?

I generally do exactly what you described. For example, at the event where I took the shots I posted last night (Rally in Black and White), I ended up taking well over 300 shots -- probably closer to 400. I only have one fixed focal length lens (135mm), and I suppose it's suitable for use at event like the one I was at over the weekend. But, it's pretty heavy compared to my other lenses, and I'm not very good at manually focusing it, yet. So, I tend to use it for nature shots for the time being, rather than try to use it for an event only to get home and discover that I've managed to screw up every shot and have nothing to show for it. I do need to practice more with it than I do, though.

As for being discouraged, that is the one thing I haven't had a problem with. Even when I take a whole gang of pictures in a day only to discovered that they all completely suck when I get them on the computer monitor, I can't wait to get back out and shoot again. I do love it when one out of ten shots somehow works.

Thanks again,

Walt


On 10/25/2010 11:15 AM, Nick David Wright wrote:
P.J. that's what it ~used~ to mean. ;-)

Don't most newer camera models include a feature to crop now-a-days?

Walter, when you say "crop in camera" this is what most photographers
will assume you mean ... i.e. framing the shot as you want it before
you click the shutter so that no cropping is necessary.

Cropping "in camera" is always a wise idea because you'll be getting
the full quality your camera is capable of.

As to wishing you had framed your photo differently ... the only
solution to the problem is to shoot lots. Try all the angles, get
close, step back. Zoom in, zoom out (though I would make the argument
that spending a good amount of time with a single focal length lens
will do more to help with your framing than anything else).

Above all, don't get discouraged. You're new to this. Make lots of
frames, learn what you like and what you don't. It's the only way.

On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 9:37 AM, P. J. Alling
<[email protected]>  wrote:
In camera cropping simply refers to how you frame the photo.  You try to get
close enough to the subject, to fill most of the frame and place it where
you'll want it to be in the final print.  Sometimes that's impossible to do,
but that's all it means.  It requires a bit of pre-visualization to achieve
what you want.

On 10/25/2010 2:01 AM, Walter Gilbert wrote:
  Hi all,

[Insert standard mealy-mouthed plea for forbearance due to inexperience,
acknowledgment of fact that any photographer worth his salt should know, and
insistence that Google was not forthcoming with satisfactory answers, here.]

I've been doing all of my cropping with software rather than in-camera
since I started taking photos.  A fair percentage of the crops I do are
pretty severe.  But, it's occurred to me that I may be sacrificing IQ as a
consequence of that tendency, though I don't know.  I've searched for
"advantages of in-camera cropping" and other similar key words, but haven't
been able to find any informative material with high relevancy results.  So,
I figured I'd ask the Pentaxian Oracles.

I've always just assumed that cropping in-camera does essentially the same
thing as cropping with software in post-processing.  Am I right in that
regard?  Or, does the camera perform the task better than, say, IrfanView or
some other basic image editor?

My routine (admittedly redundant) has been to pull the HD card and cut&
paste the folder into my "Photography" directory, load them into Picasa and
save the original files (typically JPEG) as the "Picasa Originals", then go
about cropping for composition.  I do my best to avoid cropping any image
down to anything less than 2400 pixels long-side from the original
4288x2848.  Once I've done my cropping, I resize them down to two
resolutions -- 2400 pixels long-side for prints and 1600 pixels long-side
for uploading and sharing (if I intend to do that with any of the images).

Am I screwing up by doing this instead of doing most of my cropping
in-camera, or is it six of one, half-a-dozen of the other?

Thanks in advance for any guidance anyone can offer.

Best,

Walt


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