That should be the best buy in "longish" Pentax glass. That's what I get for 
using make-believe words;-).
Paul
On Jan 23, 2011, at 7:21 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

> The best buy in lonishg Pentax glass is probably the A400/5.6. They sometimes 
> go for just a couple hundred. The M and K versions won't focus close enough 
> for bird or small animal photography unless used with a short extension tube.
> Paul
> On Jan 23, 2011, at 6:36 PM, frank theriault wrote:
> 
>> On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 7:33 PM, Larry Colen <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> With the exception of Godfrey, who sounds like he has achieved gear nirvana 
>>> and sounds like he has all the gear he needs for the photos he takes, I 
>>> think that most of us often run up against the limitations of what our 
>>> skill can do with the gear that we have. And if we're honest with 
>>> ourselves, skill is usually the limiting factor, sometimes it's the gear, 
>>> and sometimes a certain piece of kit can compensate for our own personal 
>>> limitations. For example, last night I was pushing the envelope of what I 
>>> could do with the K-x photographing backlit musicians in an otherwise 
>>> nearly dark room.  I was sorely missing the improved sensor, focus assist 
>>> light, and focus indicators of the K-r.
>>> 
>>> I expect that most of us have gear wishlists that would make Bill Gates 
>>> credit cards cringe in terror, we also probably have "short lists" of gear 
>>> that we are planning on buying in the near future. Generally gear that 
>>> fills particular needs, and which would make a noticeable difference in 
>>> photos that we regularly shoot, or which would allow us to get photos that 
>>> we simply can't get with the gear we have.
>>> 
>>> What items are on your short list, and why?
>>> 
>>> At the top of my shortlist is the K-5.  I often find myself in situations 
>>> where even 2/3 stop of performance makes a big difference in the photos 
>>> that I can take. Likewise, there are times when improved autofocus would 
>>> also help. It would also be a lot more convenient for me to have all the 
>>> features that I need for different scenarios, in the same camera, rather 
>>> than being split between two cameras.  My K-x could go back to wearing the 
>>> DA40 and living in my fannypack as my "pocket camera", and the K-5 could be 
>>> my primary camera, and stay in my big bag, rather than aways carrying both 
>>> in the big bag.
>>> 
>>> I've found that when shooting action, where people are moving around, a 
>>> zoom lens can make a huge difference.  When I'm photographing aikido, I 
>>> find that I need wider lenses when people are defending themselves against 
>>> multiple attackers, and the action covers a large portion of the mat, and 
>>> moves around a lot.  But when only two people are practicing, and they 
>>> aren't moving around a lot, my 50mm isn't quite long enough.  I suspect 
>>> that a 28-105/2.8  would pretty much cover what I need, but since I don't 
>>> know of one of those the 28-75/2.8 is probably the closest to what I need.  
>>> Alternatively, if I were shooting with two cameras, I could get the 50-135 
>>> on one body, and the 16-50 on another.  I think that the 50-135 would do 
>>> also do well with the band photography I've been doing, considering how 
>>> often I'm using my 77 or 135 for closeups.
>>> 
>>> The runner ups for my short list are:
>>> 
>>> DA35 macro :  I love my DA40 for its size and sharpness, but when I carry 
>>> it as a walk around lens, especially on hikes in the woods, I often find 
>>> myself wishing it were a bit wider, and focused a bit closer.
>>> 
>>> Samyang 85/1.4  :  I'm still hurting over the A* 85/1.4 that the guys wife 
>>> sold at work while I was waiting for him to get home from running his 
>>> errands.  I keep needing that little bit extra shutter speed.  I'd love a 
>>> modern f/1.4 lens in the 75-90mm range, but I doubt that I'd be able to 
>>> afford it before sensors got so fast that I no longer needed that speed.
>>> 
>>> Sigma 30/1.4 :  My FA31/1.8 may be a better lens, but again, I often find 
>>> myself wishing I had that extra 2/3 of a stop of speed, so that I could 
>>> bump my shutter speed up from 1/10 to 1/15 second.
>>> 
>>> Something wider than 16mm.
>> 
>> A prime longer than 200mm (for my nature photography).  Don't care if
>> it's manual focus or not.  Doesn't have to be that fast.  Sharp would
>> be good.
>> 
>> The 21mm pancake limited for street shooting.
>> 
>> The Fuji X100 (again, for street shooting - I think this would be the
>> perfect digital street camera for me)
>> 
>> The Leica M9 with a 35 or 40mm prime.  Will never be able to afford,
>> but I can dream, can't I?
>> 
>> cheers,
>> frank
>> 
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