do you know how many indians it takes to produce the equivalent of /your/ carbon dioxide footprint?
2011/2/6 P. J. Alling <[email protected]>: > I would be much happier if the Indians and Chinese became rich enough to buy > those cars, they'd stop having so many children and relieve a lot of the > stress on all the worlds systems. Rich peoples have fewer children all > other things being equal. Actually China is a strange case. Their one > child policy has caused a couple of counter intuitive but very real > problems, the Chinese have a surplus of young men, boys children being > preferred over girls in Chinese society, and demographically a population > that's ageing faster than almost any other in Asia. It will be interesting > to see what happens there if I live long enough. > > > On 2/6/2011 3:28 PM, DagT wrote: >> >> At what number do you think the exploding number of humans, with their >> technology and consumption, WILL make a difference to the climate? Never? >> >> I don´t know if it has happened yet, although the erratic behavior of the >> climate indicates that we have come to that point. The point is: I hope we >> never get there. The moment we have a significant influence on the world >> climate we have passed the point of no return. I think we should be careful >> long before we reach that point. >> >> Just imagine the impact of more than 2 billion chinese and indian people >> being able to buy their own car, as well as getting electricity into their >> houses. >> >> DagT >> http://www.thrane.name >> >> >> >> Den 6. feb. 2011 kl. 16.54 skrev P. J. Alling: >> >>> The climate changes, it has been for the entire time life has been on >>> earth. We, and all other life, adapt, or die. >>> >>> Your implication is that somehow our actions make a particularly large >>> difference is ludicrous, and always has been. We can create localized micro >>> climate changes. Very little more. >>> >>> CO2 the common boogieman is a trace element. A good volcanic eruption >>> will add more to the atmosphere in one year than has the entire industrial >>> revolution, yet it the long run it barely registers. >>> >>> The best predictor of future climate is the sunspot cycle yet most >>> "climate scientests" completely ignore it*, because we don't have a good >>> idea of exactly why it works. But you know we don't have a particularly >>> good model of how anything in climate works. None of the common models >>> predict the future, none even reliably predict the past, unless you >>> "massage" the data so much it would make an Economist blush. >>> >>> >>> *That wasn't always the case, I remember learning about it in physical >>> science classes in Jr. High School. >>> >>> >>> On 2/6/2011 3:01 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: >>>> >>>> Could you be more specific? >>>> >>>> On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 2:54 AM, P. J. Alling<[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Total Bullshit. >>>>> >>>>> On 2/6/2011 2:39 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Wonderful! >>>>>> >>>>>> BTW, there is no such thing as "global warming." It is more correctly >>>>>> referred to a "climate change," and more that warming the entire >>>>>> planet, it is bringing us more extreme weather of all types. If we >>>>>> keep calling it "global warming," people suffering from unusual cold >>>>>> and extreme snows fall to connect what is happening to them with the >>>>>> world-wide changes affecting us all. >>>>>> >>>>>> Dan >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 6:36 PM, Collin Brendemuehl >>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2010/1/1/129068813376929711.jpg >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sincerely, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Collin Brendemuehl >>>>>>> http://kerygmainstitute.org >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot >>>>>>> lose" >>>>>>> -- Jim Elliott >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>>>>>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> follow the directions. >>>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Where's the Kaboom? 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