Ok so carbon is the trace element. Happy? Carbon in the atmosphere
wouldn't exist except as particulates, since the periodic table of the
elements informs me that Carbon doesn't exist as a gas at standard
temperatures and pressures, unless it were in some sort of compound,
sorry lets be pedantic, yes there is a partial pressure of Carbon but at
such low concentrations it's not even worth thinking about. So, I
should have said trace gas. I would have if I were writing a paper.
However I'm not I'm writing, on an internet forum. People who wave
their credentials trying to silence others are just kind of sad in the
final analysis, not that I haven't done it.. However the point was that
the human contribution to that trace -element-, err sorry gas, /is/
insignificant.
Am I a scientist? I know how to apply the scientific method. I spent a
couple of years studding to be a biologist, never finished and I figured
that filling out the paperwork for an AS was just a waste of time. I
spent a fair number of years in my life with the title of Scientist,
(Computer but hey, that's what it said on my cubical plaque). So you
tell me? Oh and I have a Degrees in History and Economics, oh and I've
probably forgotten more about statistics than most people ever learn.
On 2/6/2011 4:55 PM, Jeffery Smith wrote:
It isn't an element. And its relatively small amount doesn't mean that it is
insignificant to the global climate. I'm guessing that you aren't a scientist.
Jeffery
On Feb 6, 2011, at 3:47 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:
I didn't say that most of it comes form volcanos. I said the the Human
contribution is dwarfed by a good volcanic eruption, and yes CO2 is a trace
element in the atmosphere at just 0.039%. IIRC the definition of Trace element
is any thing less than 0.1% of a substance.
On 2/6/2011 4:32 PM, Jeffery Smith wrote:
CO2 is a trace element? And most of it comes from volcanos? Glenn Beck or Sarah
Palin must have written a science text.
Jeffery
Den 6. feb. 2011 kl. 16.54 skrev P. J. Alling:
The climate changes, it has been for the entire time life has been on earth.
We, and all other life, adapt, or die.
Your implication is that somehow our actions make a particularly large
difference is ludicrous, and always has been. We can create localized micro
climate changes. Very little more.
CO2 the common boogieman is a trace element. A good volcanic eruption will
add more to the atmosphere in one year than has the entire industrial
revolution, yet it the long run it barely registers.
The best predictor of future climate is the sunspot cycle yet most "climate scientests"
completely ignore it*, because we don't have a good idea of exactly why it works. But you know we
don't have a particularly good model of how anything in climate works. None of the common models
predict the future, none even reliably predict the past, unless you "massage" the data so
much it would make an Economist blush.
*That wasn't always the case, I remember learning about it in physical science
classes in Jr. High School.
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