On Apr 13, 2011, at 3:00 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: > Bob W wrote: > >>> Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est >> >>> I have more than a little temptation to comment on how his essay has >>> provoked an interesting discussion on snob appeal vs. talent, or at >>> least to challenge him to a photo competition, my 64 year old, >>> unadjusted Argus C3 brick against his Leica M3. However given the >>> subjective aspect of photographic quality, it isn't nearly so cut and >>> dried as asking whether I'd be able to keep up with him around the >>> racetrack in his Porsche while driving my Dodge Van. >> >> I've used an Argus brick which is probably now 60+ years old, although it >> was nearly 30 years ago that I used it. And I have a Leica M3 which is 52 >> years old. >> >> I can categorically assure you that the M3 is better than the Argus in all >> respects expect brickiness. > > Where do you stand on the Porsche vs. Dodge Van question?
The first time I drove a Dodge van on the track, I was turning faster laptimes in my van than I had been in my Corolla. I was also turning faster laptimes than one of the students in his second generation MR2. I did realize that if I rolled the toyota up into a little ball I could tow it home in the van, the function was not commutable. The one time I drove my current van on the track, I had to drive so slow so that my current student could keep up, I have no idea as to it's performance abilities. I don't have any direct experience with a Dodge Van and a Porsche, but I did have a student once, who by the end of the day was keeping up with my Honda stationwagon in his carrera 4. Some years back, Grassroots Motorsports did a laptime comparison between a Honda Odyssey and a Jaguar E-type on an autocross course. The Odyssey was substantially faster. In any case, depending on the van, the porsche and the racetrack, there's a good chance that I could turn a faster laptime than him, if I were in a Dodge Van and he were in a Porsche. Given drivers of equal skill, and a 1/2 ton van with a 360 and swaybars versus a 914/1.8 and upgraded swaybars, I wouldn't be surprised if the van took on the porsche. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.