"Sure thing, it doesn't bother me. Then again my hide is a bit thicker than some of the delicate souls on this list."
This is why I blame Larry for everything by default. On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 9:31 PM, Larry Colen <[email protected]> wrote: > > On Sep 11, 2011, at 6:01 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > >> On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 5:47 PM, Larry Colen <[email protected]> wrote: >>> ... Oh come on Godfrey, you know that wasn't meant as an attack. >> >> The way you wrote it could be considered an ad hominem attack. As long >> as you want to comment on my writing style, I'll comment on yours, ok? > > Sure thing, it doesn't bother me. Then again my hide is a bit thicker than > some of the delicate souls on this list. > >> >>> ... your writing style is not always the most conducive to love, peace and >>> understanding ... >> >> You should be used to it by now. I could care less about love, peace >> and PC smarminess in a discussion of camera technology and technique. >> Good, clear information and directly stated opinions are all I find >> useful. > > That's kind of where the understanding bit comes in. > >> >>>> There are legitimate uses for extraordinary sensitivity. There's never >>>> any point to being obsessed with it as some sort of Holy Grail. >>> >>> Unless, for example, it is the performance limitation that keeps you from >>> getting the pictures that you're trying to take. >> >> I don't know how being obsessed with something as a Holy Grail helps >> you in getting the pictures you want to make. > > People are always looking for technical solutions that'll solve all of their > problems. Taking a look at cars you have: > > ABS, soon to be mandated, even though it has shown not to reduce accidents, > just change the likelihood of types of accidents. > Passive restraints: that were mandated, even though many of them worked worse > than manual seatbelts. > Four Wheel Drive: Useful for getting cars in the snow, or mud, to go forward, > doesn't help their ability to stop or turn, and just adds weight on dry > pavement. > Hybrids: In most cases, a pure internal combustion engine car could have > lower total overall cost and impact to the environment > > Most of them are actually useful to some percentage of people (though I would > argue against expending resources to save the lives of people too stupid to > put on a seatbelt, especially at the expense of my own safety), but are > certainly not useful, nor worthwhile to the vast majority. > > I wouldn't say that I obsess over high ISO quality, but it's been the > principal limiting factor that I run up against the most often. Two more > stops of speed and I could use f/2.8 zooms in most cases where I now need to > us f/1.8 and faster primes. Another stop or two of speed and I could use > relatively inexpensive f/4 zooms rather than annoyingly expensive f/2.8 > zooms, where I can get away with the zooms today. > > Even when you aren't pushing the performance envelope, a few more stops of > sensor speed, and you could get todays performance without the cost and > complexity of image stabilization. > > I've played with Marco's camera and Voigtlander 25/0.95 lens, and it's a > really sweet system, but the poor high ISO sensor performance keeps it from > getting as good of shots as I can with my K-5 and an f/1.8 lens. Even with > the advantages that EVIL has for manually focusing in a dark room. > > I won't say that it's a holy grail, but in terms of image quality, I'd say > that it, along with the closely related dynamic range, would solve more > problems than just about any other measurable quantity. > >> >> When I run into the limitations of my equipment, I work on thinking up >> ways to extend the envelope so I can still make my photographs. > > Or you swap out to another system. > > > -- > Larry Colen [email protected] sent from i4est > > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > [email protected] > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
