You do have a way with words, Stan.

Your description of the "flash experience" had me rolling in the aisles (all 
the while nodding my head in agreement).

:-)

cheers,
frank

"What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." -- 
Christopher Hitchens

--- Original Message ---

From: Stan Halpin <[email protected]>
Sent: February 3, 2012 2/3/12
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: GESO - Bologna, three in one

Sorry - I wasn't clear. I think the field-of-view is fine, as is the distance 
from the participants. But if you turn a few degrees to your right, so that the 
trio in conversation is a bit further into the frame, and then get a good focus 
on the shorter young lady, she in the middle of the trio, then you would a) 
more forcefully bring that trio into the picture, b) isolate them a bit from 
the scene, as much as you can given fairly robust DOF with a wide angle, and c) 
still have a good broad shot of the piazza.

As to the Flash, it is a nuisance partly because it is non-functional on some 
browsers (e.g., Safari on an iPad). But even when it works, it annoys because 
it imposes the site designer's way of seeing. I click the link, there is a 
pause, and then the first picture opens up. I start to look over the image, 
trying to see what you meant about three scenes within the scene. I have about 
finished looking at the first sub-scene when all of a sudden without warning 
the image vanishes to be replaced with a sub-scene which is other than the one 
I was attending to. So I mutter and try to find a Stop button or back arrow or 
some way of controlling the flow. But it just keeps  going and going and going 
. . . Some random button clicks brought it under control, but the aggravation 
had already occurred. There are enough aspects of my life which are out of my 
control, I don't really need a web site to add to the list.

Do note, however, that except for the out-of-control-auto-pilot nature of the 
experience, the site does a good job of loading fast and being responsive to 
controls once the visitor figures out what the controls are. On balance, not 
terrible; just not as good as it could be without the Flash.

stan

On Feb 3, 2012, at 7:22 PM, John Coyle wrote:

> Thanks Stan.  I was really intending only to take a general scene, and with 
> the 16-45 it
> would have been difficult to take closer shots without intruding on the 
> action too much.
> Finding the three contained images seemed to be a bonus! 
> 
> John Coyle
> Brisbane, Australia
> 
> 
>> 
>> http://www.members.iinet.net.au/[email protected]/Inclusions/index.
>> html
>> John Coyle  Brisbane, Australia
>> 
> 
> I agree that you have three subordinate images buried in the larger. The full 
> scene is
> good enough, but really too busy; there are at least three different areas of 
> interest!
> (:-)> Of the three narrower scenes, the third is ok. But of course the 
> context is lost.
> 
> In some ideal world, a place I seldom have a chance to spend much time in, 
> you would be
> able to discard all four images - the full scene and its piece-parts. Then 
> you would move
> to the next frame on the film roll and delightedly examine a slightly 
> different image.
> This other image would show the full scene, but the camera view would be 
> shifted to the
> right a few notches. The trio standing in discussion would be the focal 
> point, and all of
> the actors in motion around them would be contrasting minor players in the 
> scene.
> 
> stan


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