Bruce wrote:

>Not really. The original photo.net post had a rather specific photographic
>objective in mind. I don't think the person asking the question had a very 
>good
>grasp basic photography. (I heard this is a dim lens, does this mean my
>pictures will come out dark? [confusing viewfinder image with film image]) It
>also sounded like she was starting from scratch with equipment.
>There were
>several posts suggesting that there were better tools for the job than entry
>level Minoltas of Pentaxes.


The original poster wanting to buy an entry level camera with up to a 300mm 
lens. She believed, based on hearsay, that Minolta and Pentax lenses will 
go dark(!).


>  Pal took this as another photo.net attack on
>Pentax. The thread veered off into Pentax vs. the world with Pal following up
>with 4 more responses to press his point. It wound up spilling over here when
>Pal couldn't get people over there to agree with him that starting with 
>Pentax,
>for wildlife photography, was just as good as every other system.


Pure hogwash. I said se should by the camera she felt comfortable with 
regardless, while initial responses was about why she shouldn't buy Pentax 
(or Minolta), not based on experience, but based on what cameras they owned 
themselves. The it was about setting the record straight abou all the 
misinformation in that thread, like how few Pentax lenses that exist and 
how difficult they are to find on the use market.


>  Of course,
>everyone over there set out to convince Pal (!) that Nikon and Canon were more
>suitable for all the standard reasons (stretched out to the point that 
>they had
>no bearing on the original poster).


Nobody said that Nikon or Canon wasn't suitable. What was said was that 
Pentax and Minolta wasn't worth buying for a variety of constructed and 
absurd reasons. And lets not forget the context of the original question.
I believe that both Nikon, Canon, Pentax and Minolta is worth buying. This 
in strong contrast to Photo.net blatant consumerism where the right name 
tag is the most important feature.



>No one over there suggested that everyone
>should get a Nikon or Canon, because it would get them NPS or CPS, and 
>everyone
>will want to rent a 600/4 to shoot their kid playing soccer.


Oh really. Did you miss half of the posts? The final triumphant argument to 
end all argument as to why to stay away from Pentax was that it was 
impossible to rent a Pentax 600/4 in Floirida.


>  BTW, Atkins
>deleted the thread there.

Thankfully yes. The first thing I said in my post was that the thread 
should be deleted due to the silly responses from people who had no first 
hand experience of what they are talking about.
In order to judge how suitable a Pentax is for wildlife, it's a plus if you 
have actually tried it.


Again, you represent the sort of silliness this thread is all about. What 
you are saying is that doing things different than Nikon and Canon is 
worthless. Doing the same as Nikon and Canon is pointless because only 
Nikon and Canon are professional cameras anyway. This is the essence of 
what you are saying and exactly the kind of silliness this thread is 
adressing. It's nothing but pure consumerism without any basis in fact or 
reason.
I don't say that anyone should go out and buy a Pentax; neither here or on 
photo.net. I say People should buy the camera and system that appeals to them.


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