I could be wrong but perhaps Pentax is not thinking that the K5 II or IIS will be so much an upgrade from a K5 as a tweaked or slightly improved model encouraging (for instance) K7 (or older model) owners who initially resisted upgrading to a K5 to "make the jump". Maybe it's for those looking for a backup body (as opposed to a replacement) for their K5. Perhaps it's intended to attract non-Pentaxians into the fold.
If incremental improvements are available, kudos to Pentax for putting them in an existing body rather than holding them for the next Big New Flagship. There seems so much wailing and gnashing of teeth because its improvements are relatively minor. I'm sure that if it was intended to be a quantum leap it would have been called a K4 or K3 or somesuch. Cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: Rob Studdert <[email protected]> Sent: November 11, 2012 11/11/12 To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Pixel-peeping madness Based on the pixel peeping and considering the price differential I would buy a K-5II or IIs solely if they showed an appreciable improvement in AF under low light as compared with an original K-5. Practically I feel that there is no other advantage in moving from the K-5 but that just me ;) On 12 November 2012 02:13, Miserere <[email protected]> wrote: > I can see clear differences between the K-5, K-5II and K-5IIs in both > noise management and detail preservation/resolution. > > But "clear" doesn't necessarily mean "large" or "useful on a practical > basis". That said, based on pixel-peeping, I'd choose the K-5IIs. > > Cheers, > > > —M. > > \/\/o/\/\ --> http://WorldOfMiserere.com > > http://EnticingTheLight.com > A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment > > > > On 10 November 2012 07:16, Rob Studdert <[email protected]> wrote: >> I can see a marked difference if I select a D800 as one of the cameras >> under compare otherwise the differences between the K5 variants are >> academic at best IMO. >> >> >> On 10 November 2012 22:04, Bruce Walker <[email protected]> wrote: >>> The resolution advantage is there in plain view. Focus on any fine >>> text. Eg: examine the red square area below the globe, with the poem. >>> Try it at ISO 100 first then switch back to 6400. The K-5IIs degrades >>> the least of al the samples. >>> >>> I added the Canon 5DMkII in to the samples and was interested to note >>> that the K-5IIs actually beats it for fine rez, and looks cleaner at >>> 6400 ISO. >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 3:46 AM, Rob Studdert <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>>> I sure as hell can't see any glaring advantage to the K-5 IIs, nor do >>>> I see any significant issue in red saturated areas of the test image. >>>> However what remains impressive is how little image quality >>>> degradation there is switching from ISO80 to ISO 800 ;) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 10 November 2012 14:53, Tim Bray <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> DPR has samples so you can do close-in comparison... here are the K-5, >>>>> the K-5 II, and K-5 IIs doing ISO6400 RAW. >>>>> >>>>> The IIs may have big advantages, but they're sure not on display here. >>>>> Zero in on anything that has intense red saturation; I was surprised >>>>> by what I saw. >>>>> >>>>> Having said that, I totally disapprove of pixel-peeping. Anyhow, >>>>> that's my story and I’m sticking to it. -T >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>>>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>>>> follow the directions. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) >>>> Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours >>>> Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio >>>> >>>> -- >>>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>>> follow the directions. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> -bmw >>> >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> [email protected] >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>> follow the directions. >> >> >> >> -- >> Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) >> Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours >> Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> [email protected] >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > [email protected] > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
