That's pretty much my thought. They got wind of the Nikon and Canon low end FF releases and their new 24mp APS-C flagship was seriously overpriced. In fact it could well be that they were planning to actually announce a 24mp FF DSLR based on the sensor family in the Sony SLT 99 which would have been even more overpriced, so they dropped back to regroup. It wouldn't be the first time. At least this time they didn't show a prototype that had to be abandoned...

On 11/11/2012 9:05 PM, Miserere wrote:
I've NEVER bought a camera based on pixel-peeping (in fact, I've even
done the opposite and bought a camera that was pretty bad when
pixel-peeped), and I agree with you, Rob, that I would only choose the
K-5II(s) if its AF were better than the K-5's, given the great price
of the K-5 right now.

I still suspect Pentax have a new flagship up their sleeve that will
be released shortly for $1,600 - 1,800. Releasing the K-5II was easy,
involved minimal R&D, and they could say "look, we did release a new
camera at Photokina...TWO new cameras, in fact."

Cheers,

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On 11 November 2012 15:09, Rob Studdert <[email protected]> wrote:
Based on the pixel peeping and considering the price differential I
would buy a K-5II or IIs solely if they showed an appreciable
improvement in AF under low light as compared with an original K-5.
Practically I feel that there is no other advantage in moving from the
K-5 but that just me ;)

On 12 November 2012 02:13, Miserere <[email protected]> wrote:
I can see clear differences between the K-5, K-5II and K-5IIs in both
noise management and detail preservation/resolution.

But "clear" doesn't necessarily mean "large" or "useful on a practical
basis". That said, based on pixel-peeping, I'd choose the K-5IIs.

Cheers,


    —M.

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On 10 November 2012 07:16, Rob Studdert <[email protected]> wrote:
I can see a marked difference if I select a D800 as one of the cameras
under compare otherwise the differences between the K5 variants are
academic at best IMO.


On 10 November 2012 22:04, Bruce Walker <[email protected]> wrote:
The resolution advantage is there in plain view. Focus on any fine
text. Eg: examine the red square area below the globe, with the poem.
Try it at ISO 100 first then switch back to 6400. The K-5IIs degrades
the least of al the samples.

I added the Canon 5DMkII in to the samples and was interested to note
that the K-5IIs actually beats it for fine rez, and looks cleaner at
6400 ISO.


On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 3:46 AM, Rob Studdert <[email protected]> wrote:
I sure as hell can't see any glaring advantage to the K-5 IIs, nor do
I see any significant issue in red saturated areas of the test image.
However what remains impressive is how little image quality
degradation there is switching from ISO80 to ISO 800 ;)



On 10 November 2012 14:53, Tim Bray <[email protected]> wrote:
DPR has samples so you can do close-in comparison... here are the K-5,
the K-5 II, and K-5 IIs doing ISO6400 RAW.

The IIs may have big advantages, but they're sure not on display here.
Zero in on anything that has intense red saturation; I was surprised
by what I saw.

Having said that, I totally disapprove of pixel-peeping.  Anyhow,
that's my story and I’m sticking to it. -T

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