What's this? A challenge?! Tripod vs handheld?! You dare me? :P

Thankfully I happen to have my tripod with me today. The truth is out
there friends......  :P

btw, I use eyebrows and eye lashes to determine focus. if they are
remotely blurred I will toss the shot.

On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 2:52 PM, Bruce Walker <bruce.wal...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thankfully, tripod vs handheld is a pleasant break from FF hot air. :-)
>
> Zos, eyebrows are my litmus test for system sharpness. Get a well-lit
> headshot of somebody and examine their eyebrows. You should clearly
> see the individual hairs. Any time I handhold to get such a shot the
> eyebrows are invariably a gaussian smear. You cannot do clean
> retouching of such images.
>
> I can show you a 100% crop of my model's eyebrows from the last beauty
> shots I took using a tripod with my K20D and DA* 50-135. Clear, sharp,
> detailed. I defy you to get that clarity handheld, no matter the
> shutter speed.
>
> BTW, I compared Gerrit's K-5 doing the same thing: there was no
> effective resolution difference to the K20D. I'm hoping to try a
> K-5IIs for this as well. I suspect it will do much better.
>
> I hope there will be a 24mpx APS-C upgrade to the K-5. 'Till then, I'm
> happy with the K20.
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 1:56 PM, Zos Xavius <zosxav...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I don't know about you, but over 1/200 I can rarely see much
>> difference in hand held vs tripod and I am certainly capable of sharp
>> pictures down to even 1/8s hand held with wide angle lenses. I have a
>> few 1/4s pictures that I have kept even that were very sharp. If I
>> have the slightest hint of camera shake, I tend not to keep the image.
>> That's just me though. The moire on the K-5 IIs is troubling to me. At
>> the apertures I shoot at, the gains in resolution would mostly be
>> lost. Such is life.
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Dario Bonazza
>> <dario.bona...@virgilio.it> wrote:
>>> You won't see evidence of the K-5IIs improvement over the K-5II in more than
>>> 90% of handheld shots, as you don't have everything else in the quality
>>> chain up to the task.
>>> On the other hand, you'll have evidence of the K-5IIs improvement over the
>>> K-5 (older model) in say 90% of shots in artificial light.
>>> For some reason, the K-5IIs seems to manage noise a bit better than the
>>> K-5II (and K-5) too. At least, the two K-5IIs bodies I had the chance to try
>>> did so.
>>>
>>> Dario
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Messaggio originale----- From: Aahz Maruch
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>>>
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>>> On Tue, Jul 16, 2013, Dario Bonazza wrote:
>>>>
>>>> -----Messaggio originale----- From: Aahz Maruch
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jul 16, 2013, Dario Bonazza wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Funny, as I thought of the 16MP sensor in the K-5IIs as the second
>>>>>> most important reason to upgrade from the K-5 (the first one being
>>>>>> of course the huge improvement in AF accuracy in odd light). 16MP is
>>>>>> already more than I need and I'm happy to delay any forced pixel
>>>>>> count increase as much as possible. That's a wonderful world, isn't
>>>>>> it?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The K-5 has the same sensor, doesn't it?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yes, but without an anti-alias filter, which means a visible jump in
>>>> resolution & sharpness when everything else (lens quality, steadiness
>>>> & focus) is at best.
>>>
>>>
>>> Missed that you were specifically talking about the IIs.  Anyway, I took
>>> both II and IIs on my Alaska cruise, will report whether I notice any
>>> difference in sharpness (although there were essentially zero duplicate
>>> shots taken with the same lens on both bodies).
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