On Sun, Jul 21, 2013 at 2:32 PM, Aahz Maruch <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 16, 2013, Bruce Walker wrote:
>> On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 3:43 PM, Aahz Maruch <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> On Tue, Jul 16, 2013, Bruce Walker wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Zos, eyebrows are my litmus test for system sharpness. Get a well-lit
>>>> headshot of somebody and examine their eyebrows. You should clearly
>>>> see the individual hairs. Any time I handhold to get such a shot the
>>>> eyebrows are invariably a gaussian smear. You cannot do clean
>>>> retouching of such images.
>>>>
>>>> I can show you a 100% crop of my model's eyebrows from the last beauty
>>>> shots I took using a tripod with my K20D and DA* 50-135. Clear, sharp,
>>>> detailed. I defy you to get that clarity handheld, no matter the
>>>> shutter speed.
>>>
>>> Let's make sure we're testing the same thing.  What percent of frame
>>> should the person's head be?  Any other requirements?
>>
>> You want this to be scientific? This is The Internet. :-)
>
> Not necessarily "scientific", but at least evidence-based.  ;-)
>
>> Well, the shot I have In Support of Tripod Use is this recent one:
>>
>> http://flic.kr/p/f2Kebj
>>
>> Obviously head fills the frame, landscape. Camera was about 8-9 feet
>> away, 135mm at F8.0, ISO 200.
>>
>> Here's a 100% crop of her right eyebrow and eyelashes:
>>
>> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2254722/PDML/BMW_8026-crop.tif
>>
>> It's an 8-bit TIFF, exported from the original RAW shot in Lightroom
>> 4. Lr's default zeroed settings except WB: flash and the default RAW
>> sharpening of 25.
>
> This is a sucky shot, but hopefully enough to disprove your point.  Nikon
> P7100 (10MP), mirror selfie, arm braced on door frame, 61mm (35mm/e), ISO
> 100, 1/25s.  Converted from RAW in Preview.app (essentially no editing).
>
> http://rule6.info/photos/critique/eyebrow/eyebrow_headshot.jpg
> http://rule6.info/photos/critique/eyebrow/eyebrow.tiff
>
> A better and/or newer camera with a higher shutter speed and better
> lighting would certainly improve things, as would tighter composition.

Yes, that's really nice and sharp brows, but you cheated there. By
bracing yourself on the door you've improvised a tripod with two legs
and a doorframe. ;-)

Handheld is handheld ...

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