Darren,
A 40+ year old hybrid lens nobody has ever discovered?
Lots of dis-assembly and re-assembly possible over the years.
In the old days, people paid VERY close attention and missed it?
Regards,  Bob S.

On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 1:48 PM, Darren Addy <[email protected]> wrote:
> Don't know how many will be interested in this, but it is kind of a
> big deal if you are looking for the original 8 element Super Takumar
> 50mm f1.4 (or think you already own one).
>
> It started when I found this photo on Flickr: 3 versions of Super
> Takumar f1.4/50mm ?!
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/kuuan/8312126654
>
> The poster here believes that the middle lens is a hybrid between the
> 8 element and the 7 element. He goes on to dissect it and prove that
> it is a 7 element design. But I discovered taht one thing that threw
> him off is actually a Pentax mistake: If you look at the Red Infrared
> focusing mark and compare the three lenses, you will see that the
> spacing of the lines is different on the true 8 element, as compared
> to the other two. The "hybrid" actually has the wrong line painted
> red. This gives the impression that it is an 8 element, but if you
> look closely you will see that they have actually painted the f4 line
> red on the "hybrid".
>
> I don't know how many example of this there might be out there, but if
> you were counting on the red infrared focusing mark as the identifying
> feature you might want to look again. I placed a comment in that
> photo's thread showing the same thing.
>
> So the "hybrid" IS a transitional lens, in that they are still using
> the A/M designation (like they did on the original 8 element) and not
> the later Auto/Man. But it is in all other respects a 7 element lens.
>
> To help narrow it down a bit, in a later post, Andreas gives the
> serial numbers of the two lenses:
> 1585445 the 8 element
> 1591478 the "hybrid"
>
> Side note:
> The majority of people who are registering the serial number of their
> original 8 element Super Takumar 50mm f1.4s are on crack (or believe
> they have one since they procurred it from an unscrupulous seller that
> listed it as such)
> http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-serial-number-database/?do=viewserials&id=127
>
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