That's true, J.C. but that is the part you are least likely to see
when looking at photos (online auctions, etc.)
The lens will either be on the camera or they will have a cap on the
back. Unless the seller knows what they actually have, in which case
somebody else can buy it.
: )



On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 3:25 PM, J.C. O'Connell <[email protected]> wrote:
> FWIW,
>
> The easiest way to tell a true 8 element is the rear glass element
> protrudes unprotected.  On the later 7 element versions the rear
> element glass has a metal rim protecting it.
> jco
>
>
>
>
> On 8/13/2013 2:48 PM, Darren Addy wrote:
>>
>> Don't know how many will be interested in this, but it is kind of a
>> big deal if you are looking for the original 8 element Super Takumar
>> 50mm f1.4 (or think you already own one).
>>
>> It started when I found this photo on Flickr: 3 versions of Super
>> Takumar f1.4/50mm ?!
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/kuuan/8312126654
>>
>> The poster here believes that the middle lens is a hybrid between the
>> 8 element and the 7 element. He goes on to dissect it and prove that
>> it is a 7 element design. But I discovered taht one thing that threw
>> him off is actually a Pentax mistake: If you look at the Red Infrared
>> focusing mark and compare the three lenses, you will see that the
>> spacing of the lines is different on the true 8 element, as compared
>> to the other two. The "hybrid" actually has the wrong line painted
>> red. This gives the impression that it is an 8 element, but if you
>> look closely you will see that they have actually painted the f4 line
>> red on the "hybrid".
>>
>> I don't know how many example of this there might be out there, but if
>> you were counting on the red infrared focusing mark as the identifying
>> feature you might want to look again. I placed a comment in that
>> photo's thread showing the same thing.
>>
>> So the "hybrid" IS a transitional lens, in that they are still using
>> the A/M designation (like they did on the original 8 element) and not
>> the later Auto/Man. But it is in all other respects a 7 element lens.
>>
>> To help narrow it down a bit, in a later post, Andreas gives the
>> serial numbers of the two lenses:
>> 1585445 the 8 element
>> 1591478 the "hybrid"
>>
>> Side note:
>> The majority of people who are registering the serial number of their
>> original 8 element Super Takumar 50mm f1.4s are on crack (or believe
>> they have one since they procurred it from an unscrupulous seller that
>> listed it as such)
>>
>> http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-serial-number-database/?do=viewserials&id=127
>>
>
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