We disagree on many issues, Paul. But you're always a gentleman. And a friend.

Wrong.

But a friend. 

LOL!

cheers,
frank

Paul Stenquist <[email protected]> wrote:
>I love you too Frank. Seriously, you're a pal. That's why I try to
>liberate you:-)
>
>Paul via phone
>
>> On Nov 24, 2013, at 9:50 PM, knarf <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> You completely miss my point Paul. 
>> 
>> I don't shoot nudes. Male or female. I wouldn't do the genre justice.
>Male or female.
>> 
>> And I wasn't complaining. I was commenting.
>> 
>> So far the comments to my post are about what I expected, from the
>expected sources.
>> 
>> But I love ya, buddy!
>> 
>> ;-)
>> 
>> Anyone else?
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> frank
>> 
>> Paul Stenquist <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> The simple solution: shoot some male nudes and post them, I would
>think
>>> that someone who fervently believes there should be balance would
>>> strive to make that happen rather than merely complaining . I shot a
>>> nude self portrait in sycamore canyon about a dozen years ago. Hmmm.
>>> 
>>> Paul via phone
>>> 
>>>> On Nov 24, 2013, at 9:35 PM, knarf <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> What makes you think I haven't protested museums and galleries?
>>>> 
>>>> Besides, just because another venue objectifies females doesn't
>mean
>>> it should be done here.
>>>> 
>>>> And there are surely many reasons other than beauty to portray the
>>> male form. Power, athleticism, eroticism, are they not valid
>reasons?
>>>> 
>>>> Not that I accept your statement that female forms are more
>beautiful
>>> than male. That strikes as pure opinion not backed by any facts
>>> whatsoever. How could it be anything other than opinion?
>>>> 
>>>> Keep in mind that the art world, from artists to curators to
>gallery
>>> owners to purchasers is male-dominated.
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> frank
>>>> 
>>>> Paul Stenquist <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> Mature male bodies simply aren't as attractive as female bodies.
>Art
>>>>> history weighs heavily in favor of the female form. Perhaps you
>>> should
>>>>> mount a protest at the Met. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Paul via phone
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Nov 24, 2013, at 9:14 PM, knarf <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The catalyst for this little missive, I must admit, is Bruce's
>>> recent
>>>>> series of NSFW semi-nudes. That being said, it's not directed
>>>>> specifically to or at Bruce. It's more a comment on the whole
>female
>>>>> nude thing. Others have posted similar photos in the past and
>likely
>>>>> will do so again.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> My problem, of course, is the objectification of women. And it's
>>> not
>>>>> because they're sexualized by showing "dirty parts". It's because
>>>>> there's such a huge disparity between male nudes and female nudes.
>>>>>> 

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