I'll take the pictures but I won't be in them.

LOL!

Cheers,
frank

Ann Sanfedele <[email protected]> wrote:
>If you and Paul decided to bare it all - I'm afraid I'll have to leave
>:-)
>
>ann
>
>On 11/24/2013 22:17, knarf wrote:
>> I'm there.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> frank
>>
>>
>> Paul Stenquist <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Paul via phone
>>>
>>>> On Nov 24, 2013, at 10:04 PM, knarf <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>>>>
>>>> We disagree on many issues, Paul. But you're always a gentleman.
>And
>>> a friend.
>>>>
>>>> Wrong.
>>>>
>>>> But a friend.
>>> That's all I aspire to. Let's do a male nude pug. It would be
>>> interesting to see who could do it justice .
>>>>
>>>> LOL!
>>>>
>>>> cheers,
>>>> frank
>>>>
>>>> Paul Stenquist <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> I love you too Frank. Seriously, you're a pal. That's why I try to
>>>>> liberate you:-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Paul via phone
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Nov 24, 2013, at 9:50 PM, knarf <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You completely miss my point Paul.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't shoot nudes. Male or female. I wouldn't do the genre
>>> justice.
>>>>> Male or female.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And I wasn't complaining. I was commenting.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So far the comments to my post are about what I expected, from
>the
>>>>> expected sources.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But I love ya, buddy!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ;-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyone else?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> frank
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Paul Stenquist <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>> The simple solution: shoot some male nudes and post them, I
>would
>>>>> think
>>>>>>> that someone who fervently believes there should be balance
>would
>>>>>>> strive to make that happen rather than merely complaining . I
>shot
>>> a
>>>>>>> nude self portrait in sycamore canyon about a dozen years ago.
>>> Hmmm.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Paul via phone
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Nov 24, 2013, at 9:35 PM, knarf <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What makes you think I haven't protested museums and galleries?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Besides, just because another venue objectifies females doesn't
>>>>> mean
>>>>>>> it should be done here.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And there are surely many reasons other than beauty to portray
>>> the
>>>>>>> male form. Power, athleticism, eroticism, are they not valid
>>>>> reasons?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Not that I accept your statement that female forms are more
>>>>> beautiful
>>>>>>> than male. That strikes as pure opinion not backed by any facts
>>>>>>> whatsoever. How could it be anything other than opinion?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Keep in mind that the art world, from artists to curators to
>>>>> gallery
>>>>>>> owners to purchasers is male-dominated.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>> frank
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Paul Stenquist <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Mature male bodies simply aren't as attractive as female
>bodies.
>>>>> Art
>>>>>>>>> history weighs heavily in favor of the female form. Perhaps
>you
>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>>>> mount a protest at the Met.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Paul via phone
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 24, 2013, at 9:14 PM, knarf <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The catalyst for this little missive, I must admit, is
>Bruce's
>>>>>>> recent
>>>>>>>>> series of NSFW semi-nudes. That being said, it's not directed
>>>>>>>>> specifically to or at Bruce. It's more a comment on the whole
>>>>> female
>>>>>>>>> nude thing. Others have posted similar photos in the past and
>>>>> likely
>>>>>>>>> will do so again.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> My problem, of course, is the objectification of women. And
>>> it's
>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>> because they're sexualized by showing "dirty parts". It's
>>> because
>>>>>>>>> there's such a huge disparity between male nudes and female
>>> nudes.
>>>>
>>>> “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel
>>>>
>>>>
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