Please, let us absolutely not engage on this kind of discussions on the list. There are very good people who are suffering from both sides of the fence. Let us honor them but not trying to establish who is right and who is wrong, because both parties are both right and wrong.

On 7/13/2014 9:01 PM, knarf wrote:
 From what I see the problem there is a bit more complicated than simply 
controlling Hamas (even if that were possible).

My heart goes out to all Israelis who live with the fear of rocket and other 
terrorist attacks. I can't imagine what that's like.

There is no justification for what Hamas does: it is criminal.

HOWEVER, Israel's response is completely out of proportion, heavy-handed and 
seems bound to be ineffectual or worse.

Here's what I know:

Hamas is prepared to sacrifice innocent Palestinian civilians to win world 
opinion and sympathy.

The government and military of Israel is prepared to sacrifice innocent 
Palestinian civilians for all sorts of reasons that are probably best discussed 
elsewhere.

As of last night 154 Palestinians and 0 Israelis have died since this latest 
escalation started.

Each side blames the other and claims total justification for their actions.

Someone needs to step up and choose peace. No one seems prepared to do that. 
Accordingly this horrendous situation. Will continue.

Regards,

frank

On 13 July, 2014 9:09:05 AM EDT, Bob Sullivan <rf.sulli...@gmail.com> wrote:
Boris,
We think of you and your family every day.
We hope for your continued safety.
We imagine you are living like Londoners under 'the blitz.'
I hate the thought of what this must be doing to the girls.
I wish the Palestinians had enough strength and sense to control the
rocket launchers.
Until this happens, I fear that much misery and suffering and death
will be visited upon them.
I have no sympathy for those launching the rockets, hiding behind
their neighbors.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 10:49 PM, Boris Liberman <bori...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Hello.

Below is the statement of the fact. It is not my intent to convey any
emotional sub-text whatsoever. Times are approximate, except the very
first
one.

* 5:50 - my alarm clock rings; I swipe it to silence. I decide to
linger in
bed a bit longer.
* 6:00 - Julia wakes up and starts her morning routine
* 6:10 - we hear rocket alarm, I jump out of bed. Julia grabs the
kids and
heads to the stairway of our house. According to rear command, we
have 90
seconds to get to safety. This gives me time to pull on my
yesterday's
t-shirt and trousers. We climb down two stories, it seems that
everyone in
our building (4 story, 40 years old) agree that the area between the
first
and second floor is the safest. First floor is one immediately above
the
ground floor. We're alone as no one is awake at this time of day.
* 6:15 - we hear some booms. It is interceptor rockets handy work.
Anat is
counting.
* 6:20 - I suggest we return. Girls start to stand up as they were
sitting
on the floor. We hear another rocket alarm. The girls return to
sitting on
the floor.
* 6:25 - We hear some more booms. Anat keeps her count. The doors
around us
start to open as our neighbors drag themselves out of bed. Few
minutes later
we return home to start our day.

Now comes the emotional part. It's been about a week since this has
started.
Only one list member, blessed be his name, has written to me off the
list.
Frankly, your silence is deafening...

Carry on.

Boris

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