Crikey, Larry. Why use a $400 flash as a dumb optically triggered
slave? You can get old Vivitar 283/285s for that purpose and they are
a dime a dozen these days. Add a Vivitar Vari-Power Module (admittedly
getting harder to find) and you've got oodles of flexibility on an
optically fired slave.

On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 8:55 PM, Larry Colen <[email protected]> wrote:
> When my AF 540 died, I replaced it with a metz 58-2.
>
> For just basic flash operations, it works a lot better.  My AF-540 was an 
> unreliable piece of crap. Unreliable in that it kept breaking and unreliable 
> in that I could never rely on it to do what I told it to.
>
> The UI of the Metz is not very good.  The other problem with the Metz is that 
> I cannot figure out how to use it as a dumb optically triggered strobe. It’ll 
> work with the fancy ttl controls, at least in theory, I haven’t had much 
> luck, but when I want it on a stand, triggered off my studio lights, I seem 
> to be SOL and just need to get an external optical trigger.
>
> I’ve been looking at the yongnuo and the Midwest photo strobes lately.
>
>
> On Jul 31, 2014, at 2:15 PM, Igor Roshchin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>> Dan,
>>
>> I've been heavily relying on flash in what I photograph:
>> quick dances in a dark room, fill-in flash for my child indoors and
>> outdoors photos, some candid portraits in dynamic settings.
>>
>> While I have only tried Pentax AF540 with K-7, I didn't like it,
>> and bought Metz 58 (not "2" yet), that I've been happily using ever
>> since, with both K-7 and K-5IIs.
>> IMHO, it works much better (but not universally perfectly, - so you have
>> to use it smartly).
>> I've been using it in two modes: either in "A", where the flash decides
>> when to cut itself off, or in PTTL.
>> In most cases, I find that "A" mode works better, especially when
>> I turn the main flash up, and have the front fill-in sub-flash enabled.
>> I use PTTL often for forward-facing (typically longer-distance) shots.
>>
>> Also, PTTL seems to work somewhat better at the very close range (1-3 feet),
>> maybe because camera's CPU is faster to cut off this powerhouse.
>>
>> I agree, however, that the buttons of Pentax AF540 are more convenient
>> than the menues of Metz 58. Those menues are frustrating.
>> But I choose a better functionality.
>>
>> Also, there were some problems (and I don't remember all the details),
>> that Pentax AF540 didn't not keep its settings upon power-cycling, and
>> it might not allow a manual mode. (Larry might still remember this part,
>> - he complained about that more recently.)
>>
>> It looks like Metz 58-2 might have a better hotshoe mount, which is
>> welcome, as the one in Metz 58 is becoming a bit "loose" after a lot of
>> use, and may require occasional adjustment after insertion.
>>
>> See my earlier response about Metz 58 in this thread:
>> https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg656989.html
>>
>> HTH,
>>
>> Igor
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Thu Jul 31 16:36:09 EDT 2014
>> Paul pentax1941 at gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> I have both the Metz 58 and the Pentax AF540 and would pretty much
>> concur with the Amazon review from Darren's link.  Both will tilt and
>> swivel, features that I prefer for better lighting.
>>
>> The Pentax is a little quicker to use since you can make most changes
>> via buttons rather than spending time in menus.  The secondary flash on
>> the Metz is very useful for a fill light and the Metz is upgradeable via
>> a USB cable.
>>
>> Either one will serve you well. The Pentax *is* pricier by about $50.
>>
>> -p
>>
>> On 7/31/2014 1:19 PM, Darren Addy wrote:
>>> I've never owned a modern Pentax flash. When it came time to get one,
>>> I looked at the power and features and went with the Metz 58 AF-1. I
>>> think that has been supplanted by the AF-2 now, but it still gets very
>>> decent reviews:
>>> http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/744545-REG/Metz_MZ_58327PS_mecablitz_58_AF_2_TTL.html
>>>
>>> If you don't need that much power:
>>> http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?Ntt=Metz+52+AF-1+pentax&N=0&InitialSearch=yes&sts=ma&Top+Nav-Search=
>>>
>>> That being said, the first review on this page is worth reading:
>>> http://www.amazon.com/Metz-mecablitz-Digital-Pentax-Cameras/product-reviews/B004DUMU8I/ref=pd_sxp_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1
>>>
>>> Hope this helps.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 1:12 PM, Daniel J. Matyola <danmatyola at 
>>> gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> I have been extremely pleased with my new K-5IIs.  Recently, however,
>>>> my hotshoe mounted flash has be acting up, and I am thinking of
>>>> replacing it.
>>>>
>>>> Which flash unit would you recommend for use with the K-5IIs?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance for your advice.
>>>>
>>>> Dan Matyola
>>>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
>>>>
>>
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