Thanks, for the suggestions, Igor. I think I missed this when it first arrived. 
Eric

> On May 12, 2015, at 1:29 PM, Igor PDML-StR <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Eric,
> 
> As Jack wrote, - 17-70/4 could be an option for you (if the price is 
> affordable)
> I bought it as it gives me that reach to 70.
> It is not the sharpest lens at the longer end, so, if I need 50-70 at the 
> best quality, I switch to 50-135/2.8. But it is reasonably good nevertheless.
> I think it is still my most frequently used lens.
> 
> Its angle of view on the APS-C is 79-23 degrees, while 16-45 is 83-35.
> So, I think the amount you loose at the wide end is not _that_ big.
> Both lenses have the same (relatively small, 11"/28cm) minimum focus distance.
> 
> There is also Sigma 17-70/2.8-4 out there. I don't know much about it.
> 
> 
> 
> Now, if you are considering a budget alternative to 20-40 - just a wide zoom, 
> I'd just point out that there were several Tokina AF lenses that were 19-35 
> or 20-35).
> Initially, it was in two flavors, the more expensive ATX Pro
> (20-35/2.8), with better optics and he budget version 19-35/3.5-4.5.
> It is still available on e-bay, and typically goes for $130-150:
> http://goo.gl/srEiCB
> I am also seeing 20-35/3.5-4.5. I suspect it is a later version of the 19-35.
> 
> Tokina 19-35/3.5-4.5 was my first wide-angle lens, yet on the film body. It 
> is quite good, although not perfect. Of the con's, I remember that it was 
> prone to flaring in the direct light.
> I still have it, but haven't used it for ages, so, I don't know how it works 
> on the modern bodies (I believe, I used it just a bit on *istDS without 
> complaints).
> 
> I don't know why I am still holding to that lens, for now, my 17-70 covers 
> all what 19-35 can do...
> 
> Igor
> 
> 
> 
> On May 12, 2015, at 8:48 AM, Eric Weir wrote:
>> 
>> Well, when isn't cost a consideration? I'll put it this way: I'd like to have
>> a 20-40/2.8-4 limited but that's beyond my means. A 16-45/4 is much more
>> affordable and I might go up to double KEH.s price for it if there was
>> something that might be better for me, e.g., something as wide as the 16-45
>> but with a longer zoom range.
>> 
>> It seems that my photography requires either that or a telephoto and not much
>> in between. So I.m not especially interested in trying to accommodate all
>> that in one lens. I just want a good wide-angle zoom.
>> 
>> So, should it be the 16-45 or is there something else I should consider.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
> 
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