Thanks very much, Mark. Very helpful comparisons. I’m leaning toward the 16-45 
at the moment. I checked prices but not reviews on the 16-85. It’s out of my 
range price-wise.


> On May 12, 2015, at 6:09 PM, Mark C <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> I have both the Pentax 17-70 f4 and 16-45 f4.
> 
> Comparing the two lenses -
> 
> Sharpness: My 16-45 is noticeably sharper at f4 and slightly sharper at f5.6 
> and beyond. The 17-70 is a little soft at f4 but improves when stopped down. 
> Both of my lenses seem to be consistently sharp through their zoom ranges.
> 
> Close Focusing: The 17-70 is slightly better in both magnification and 
> working room.
> 
> Focusing: I love the silent focusing of the 17-70 and have no complaints 
> about the AF accuracy. There are a lot of complaints of SDM failures in 
> reviews though. As a manual focus lens, the throw on the 17-70 (about 90 
> degrees) is so small it would be hard to precisely focus it. The 16-45 is 
> reminds me of most other Pentax AF zooms - no problems but a little noisy.
> 
> Focal length: I can't say I notice the difference between 16 and 17mm at the 
> short end. I very much notice the difference between 45mm and 70mm though.
> 
> Handling: The 16-45 is at its longest physical length when set to 16mm, which 
> can cause a shadow in photos taken with a flash at the wide end. However, it 
> is lighter and somewhat smaller than the 17-70.
> 
> The 17-70 is my main general purpose lens at this time - the more versatile 
> zoom range and slightly better close focusing offset the slightly lower 
> optical performance. I also really like the silent focusing - the whirring of 
> a cam driver focusing mechanism in public places is a little annoying. But I 
> use the 16-45 when I want the best possible performance and can live with a 
> maximum 45mm focal length.
> 
> There is a new 16-85 (?) zoom out now as well - I have not yet read a review 
> but it may be worth thinking about.
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
> On 5/12/2015 11:48 AM, Eric Weir wrote:
>> Well, when isn’t cost a consideration? I’ll put it this way: I’d like to 
>> have a 20-40/2.8-4 limited but that’s beyond my means. A 16-45/4 is much 
>> more affordable and I might go up to double KEH’s price for it if there was 
>> something that might be better for me, e.g., something as wide as the 16-45 
>> but with a longer zoom range.
>> 
>> It seems that my photography requires either that or a telephoto and not 
>> much in between. So I’m not especially interested in trying to accommodate 
>> all that in one lens. I just want a good wide-angle zoom.
>> 
>> So, should it be the 16-45 or is there something else I should consider.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Eric Weir
>> Decatur, GA  USA
>> [email protected]
>> 
>> "Our world is a human world."
>> 
>> - Hilary Putnam
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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