if Lik's message sells photo, then it’s a good one. I sometimes hustle photos when I shoot cars for publications. The owners will be much more likely to buy if I praise their car and tell them I’m going to make a print for myself. “Would you like one as well?” On a $1200 shoot for Mopar Action, I usually sell $2000 worth of photos.
I think there are perhaps two PDML members who are as skillful as Lik. I won’t name them, but I will say that I’m certainly not one of them. I know when I’m outclassed. He’s a damn good photographer, and if he can sell his work, more power to him. I don’t think he should say that it’s a good investment, but it’s okay to say that it might be a good investment. I haven’t seen his pitch, so I don’t know. If you’re a photo hobbyist, you don’t have to worry about salesmanship, but if you intend to earn a living at photography, you have to be a businessman, and given how hard it is to sell photos, you better have a real good story. I earn a very good living selling communications, although the vast majority of it is copy, not photography. But it still requires working the beat and salesmanship. Paul > On Jun 25, 2015, at 8:35 PM, Paul Stenquist <pnstenqu...@me.com> wrote: > > Oh, so the problem is that Lik makes money. Good for him. I love seeing > photographers achieve financial success by producing something people want. > What a novel idea! I admire Rockwell’s ability to make a buck, but I consider > him a buffoon. Lik also knows how to make money, but he does it with > intelligence, so I respect him. I’ve never been jealous of those who earn > more than I do. More power to them. > >> On Jun 25, 2015, at 7:56 PM, Larry Colen <l...@red4est.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> Paul Stenquist wrote: >>> A ridiculous comparison. Like his vision or not, Lik obviously has a great >>> deal of technical expertise. Rockwell has none. >> >> However, they both do a tremendous job of uniting those of us who don't make >> enough off our photography each year to pay for the hard drive storage we >> use. >> >> >>> >>> Paul via phone >>> >>>> On Jun 25, 2015, at 6:11 PM, Larry Colen<l...@red4est.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> John wrote: >>>>> He does appear to have used the low noise/low light capabilities of the >>>>> 645D (or 645Z) to good effect in this series. >>>>> >>>>> It's a good example of what Ken Rockwell might be able to do if he >>>>> actually used some of the equipment he reviews. >>>> I was just about to phrase it as: >>>> >>>> Mr. Lik has done as much for photography both culturally and artistically >>>> as Mr. Rockwell. >>>> >>>> But, yeah. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) >>>> >>>> -- >>>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>>> PDML@pdml.net >>>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>>> follow the directions. >>> >> >> -- >> Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.