I agree Paul. If I only looked at photos as an investment, I would never buy any photo. If I buy them, its because there is something I like about it enough to part with my money. And if I really like it, it might just take up some better real estate on my walls. I wouldn't mind having this Lik on one of my walls for example: http://www.lik.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/a/u/autumn-impressions.jpg
Of course, getting me to part with that much money is going to be the gatekeeper here. On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 8:24 PM, paul stenquist <[email protected]> wrote: > if Lik's message sells photo, then it’s a good one. I sometimes hustle photos > when I shoot cars for publications. The owners will be much more likely to > buy if I praise their car and tell them I’m going to make a print for myself. > “Would you like one as well?” On a $1200 shoot for Mopar Action, I usually > sell $2000 worth of photos. > > I think there are perhaps two PDML members who are as skillful as Lik. I > won’t name them, but I will say that I’m certainly not one of them. I know > when I’m outclassed. He’s a damn good photographer, and if he can sell his > work, more power to him. I don’t think he should say that it’s a good > investment, but it’s okay to say that it might be a good investment. I > haven’t seen his pitch, so I don’t know. > > If you’re a photo hobbyist, you don’t have to worry about salesmanship, but > if you intend to earn a living at photography, you have to be a businessman, > and given how hard it is to sell photos, you better have a real good story. > I earn a very good living selling communications, although the vast majority > of it is copy, not photography. But it still requires working the beat and > salesmanship. > > Paul >> On Jun 25, 2015, at 8:35 PM, Paul Stenquist <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Oh, so the problem is that Lik makes money. Good for him. I love seeing >> photographers achieve financial success by producing something people want. >> What a novel idea! I admire Rockwell’s ability to make a buck, but I >> consider him a buffoon. Lik also knows how to make money, but he does it >> with intelligence, so I respect him. I’ve never been jealous of those who >> earn more than I do. More power to them. >> >>> On Jun 25, 2015, at 7:56 PM, Larry Colen <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> Paul Stenquist wrote: >>>> A ridiculous comparison. Like his vision or not, Lik obviously has a great >>>> deal of technical expertise. Rockwell has none. >>> >>> However, they both do a tremendous job of uniting those of us who don't >>> make enough off our photography each year to pay for the hard drive storage >>> we use. >>> >>> >>>> >>>> Paul via phone >>>> >>>>> On Jun 25, 2015, at 6:11 PM, Larry Colen<[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> John wrote: >>>>>> He does appear to have used the low noise/low light capabilities of the >>>>>> 645D (or 645Z) to good effect in this series. >>>>>> >>>>>> It's a good example of what Ken Rockwell might be able to do if he >>>>>> actually used some of the equipment he reviews. >>>>> I was just about to phrase it as: >>>>> >>>>> Mr. Lik has done as much for photography both culturally and artistically >>>>> as Mr. Rockwell. >>>>> >>>>> But, yeah. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Larry Colen [email protected] (postbox on min4est) >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>>>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>>>> follow the directions. >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> Larry Colen [email protected] (postbox on min4est) >>> >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> [email protected] >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>> follow the directions. >> > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > [email protected] > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- -- Reduce your Government Footprint -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
