Well at least I got a rise out of you.  Yes I know I overstated the case and
when I described the F3 as being as big as a 67.  I kept away from any numbers
because well it's impression that seems to be counting here and my 
impression of
the F3 is that it's huge.

I have to take exception to the airplane analogy.  The apex of mechanical 
camera
design camera design was in the mid to late 1980's  I doubt that there is 
much different
in the FE3 mechanically from a medium duty Nikon of that era.  The 
difference is in the
electronics.  More a difference between a B53A and a B52G.  Unfortunately 
the LX development
was frozen around the E upgrade.

At 11:42 PM 8/2/2002 -0600, you wrote:
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Peter Alling Subject: Re: Re[2]: Subject: LX repair update
>
>
> > I think you missed my point.  William said that the use of
>mixed
> > electronics and mechanicals in the
> > shutter mechanism was a hodgepodge, and one of the reasons for
>the LX's
> > supposed un-reliability.  I pointed
> > out that Nikon would probably not have used a similar setup if
>that was
> > true.  (I kind of like the FM3 by the way).
>
>Actually, I called it a bastard marriage. For the most part, the
>exposure system of the LX seems pretty reliable, keeping in mind
>that the heart of it is prone to rusting away.
>
>I don't think comparing the LX to the FM3 is valid, as they are
>from entirely different eras of manufacturing technology.
>You are comparing a Sopwith Camel to a Hawker Hurricane.
> >
> > I think that the comparison to the
> > F3 is a bit unfair by the way.  It is much bigger,
> > almost as large and heavy as a Pentax 67.  If you can't build
>in
> > reliability by using bigger heavier parts then you're doing
> > something wrong.
>
>Who are you trying to kid?
>The Nikon F3HP is:
>(W x H x D) : approx 148.5 x 101.5 x 69 mm. Body weight: Nikon
>F3HP: 760g approx.
>
>The 6x7 with the meter prism attached is:
>(W x H x D) 177 x 208 x 91mm, and weighs 2270g approx.
>
>The comparison is between top of the line cameras that are
>contemporaneous to each other from competing companies. It is a
>perfectly valid comparison.
>If making it bigger makes it more reliable, Pentax had the
>option of doing it with the LX, and the 6x7 would be their most
>reliable camera body.
>
>I do expect that if the 6x7 is in fact a less reliable camera,
>it is because it is actually used by pro photographers, and is
>subject to more wear and tear.
>I don't believe that statement for a minute, and no proof was
>given to back it up.
> From my own experience, the 6x7 is a very reliable product. I
>have known 4 of them that were used day to day by pro
>photographers, and they were all as reliable as a one piece
>hammer.
>My own 6x7 has been in the shop twice, once to cure T-Maxitus,
>which I don't hold against the camera, and once to repair a PC
>terminal that I broke right off the body.
>
>William Robb
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