There is actually an option
Preferences-Graphical Editing "Display Strings as Rotated"
which, I gather, may change something I wrote about the text always being right readable. I haven't done any experimentation with it. I am pleased that text embedded in sch symbols moves pretty much correctly. I have not been that fussed that the rotation and mirroring is not preserved (in fact I think it is good that the text tries to stay easy to read). Maybe others will have some use for this option though.
This option may be new in P2004 SP2.
(To harp on something I have said before, you would get much more definitive answers (and quicker), though, on the DXP forum. My recent knowledge of this option came from a long time user but also two Altium employees. I generally only read PEDA in batches these days so don't necessarily respond all that quickly, maybe others are the same.)
Ian
On 07:35 AM 22/03/2005, Ian Wilson said:
Brad,
If you are talking about free text in a SchLib component, that has been fixed (see my other post). I think Ton is talking about parameters (the P99SE Lib and Part fields but extended), designators and comments and the way they are reset to default positions when you rotate the component.
Also, some people are asking for the ability to locate the automatic designator (and comment, I guess) in the PCBLib footprint with some placeholders. There has recently been talk, by users, about making any text in a PCB component moveable without unlocking the component primitives. If this is done then .Designator strings can be placed in the PCB footprint and not really have any compromises (like them not being moveable without unlocking the comp prims and the risks this entails). So if implemented this might go someway to helping people control the PCB text placement in the PCBLib. (PCBLib text has never been reset by component rotation.)
I know there has been discussion of allowing SchLib "auto-text" to be located in the SchLib symbol with placeholders and these not to be affected by rotating the component. It would be a nice improvement if implemented. Possibly even an option to *not* reset text position when rotating components would be a first start.
Ian Wilson
On 03:40 AM 22/03/2005, Brad Velander said:Thanks Ton,
I don't know why I might have expected that such an annoying ridiculous issue would have been resolved, it is a meaningful bug fix and Altium just isn't interested in such things because it won't sell tools to new unsuspecting customers, engineers and coders.
Sincerely, Brad Velander Senior PCB Designer Northern Airborne Technology 1925 Kirschner Rd., Kelowna, BC, V1Y 4N7. tel (250) 763-2329 ext. 225 fax (250) 762-3374
-----Original Message----- From: Ton Kuijper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 3:17 AM To: Protel EDA Discussion List Subject: Re: [PEDA] Query about DXP feature/fix.
Hello Brad,
I am still learning how to use DXP SP2 for my 1st design. I think it has many good features, but also misses some very obvious and basic things, and has some serious misbehavior as an integrated solution. (but there will never be such a thing as a perfect package)
One of the things that surprized me is indeed its poor handling of text within symbols. There is no way to fix the place and orientation of any text precisely. After correcting the place and orientation of the text when placed on Sch or Pcb, it is DESTROYED after rotating the part and must be redone. Of course, I had anticipated that a sophisticated tool like DXP2004 would have full control over the exact place, orientation, font and size of any text within a library symbol. Why replacing the text after each placement and after each rotation?
Imagine the many users worldwide, spending so much time for each design on this stupid moving and rotating of text to its right place. Over and over again. Year after year. The amount of money destroyed worldwide over the lifetime of the tool will be astronomical.
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