Gerhard,
While it was not intended to be racist, it was intended to imply only
second or/even third class of support and/or expertise. The same would happen
if you transfer your program anywhere to an all new crew of programmers and
simply expect them to do bug fixes and minor improvements. The comments that I
have read stated that the support, maintenance and revisions of OrCAD had
declined dramatically and that each new release did little but invent new bugs
and issues, usually while not correctly addressing the old issues.
The bigger point was, is OrCAD doing any significant development or
improvement of their tools? No! I have read for many years now that they are
actually digressing from a users point of view. Similarly with PADs, there has
been no significant development since I last used the tool day-in and day-out
in 1997. Some fixes, minor improvements or minor feature additions, but hell I
bet it is still the same ole DOS engine from the early - mid 90s running under
the Windows GUI. They never have even been close to Windows compliant. So what
future is there for these tools? None. Pay your money and sludge along day to
day.
Now like I pointed out about the DXP list, you only ever usually see
the complaints on these forums, possibly my impression is biased by the
comments of the few. Such is my opinion about people's comments about DXP being
so buggy. I am encouraged by the fact most posts that I see, seem to be from
relatively new users. I don't see any number of posts from any of the old PEDA
gang (other than offering support or assistance).
In a lot of ways I am sure that I am sounding like a DXP evangelist,
that's sad. However for the past 4 years I have been constantly evaluating what
is available as an alternative and I keep coming back to the same answer. Pay a
lot more money and learn a completely new tool (with all of the existing files
to maintain as well) or move to DXP. I just don't see other viable alternatives
right now, that will actually progress and improve. At the same time I very
seriously disagree with some of Altium's actions and practices, the
discontinuation of the upgrade path discount is the most serious one at the
moment. However, they are not being totally unreasonable nor being unwise
towards their own survival and the whole future of their program(s). And I want
a tool that will be there next year or 5 years from now. So I am going where
there seems to be a viable future with growth and improvement in the tools and
their power. If you don't want to move along that path fine. That is a choice
that I have also been exercising to date, but you can't expect Altium to coddle
and support you forever and a day it just doesn't happen that way. Are you
still receiving support from Microsoft for DOS, Win3.11, NT or Win98?
Sincerely,
Brad Velander
Senior PCB Designer
Northern Airborne Technology
1925 Kirschner Rd.,
Kelowna, BC, V1Y 4N7.
tel (250) 763-2329 ext. 225
fax (250) 762-3374
-----Original Message-----
From: Gerhard Fiedler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: June 25, 2005 5:39 AM
To: Protel EDA Discussion List
Subject: Re: [PEDA] Altium Community Forums
On 6/24/05 13:01:42, Brad Velander wrote:
> From what I read from various lists with OrCAD users, you think you are
> any better off with a tool that has been delegated to foreign ESL
> programmers to simply maintain?
I'm not sure what you are trying to say here. Is it good or bad for a
program to have its maintenance "delegated to foreign ESL programmers"?
It seems to me that the quality of being "foreign" (to the USA, I presume)
or "ESL" has nothing at all to do with the qualities one needs to maintain
a technical program.
So what exactly are you trying to say?
Gerhard
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