Hamid,
I think it is you that are smoking something. As I mentioned, do you
see the old PEDA gang posting problems regarding DXP, no! So where are all of
the problems? A good number of the posts just in this last several weeks are
user problems that are not being experienced by more than one or two users. Is
this your mounting reasons for not switching based on the trials and
tribulations of the few neophyte/novices or otherwise flustered users? Even Ian
Wilson is not posting recently with his lists of improvements for the package
functions.
I don't recall your list but if it included queries verses global
changes then you really are whining. In my recent evaluation I jumped into the
query/global change issue and found no issue, worked first try and several
times afterward without any significant hang-ups. Have you checked out the
recent DXP or are you complaining based on old versions that were fixed or
improved several versions ago? How about a star point ground, is your working
in P99SE? How about all of the other P99SE DRC rules that don't work, I have
waited for resolution on a number of those for years. Now most of them do work
in DXP. Fixes to Camtastic? I have several bugs in Camtastic 2000DE that always
resulted in me going through 1/2 - 1 hours extra work on a lot of jobs. Now DXP
will do what I fought with manually, without problems.
Support? How about 2 service packs this year already and a third
announced shortly. Seems to be a definite turn-around to past history. And
before you can jump on it, the service packs are not just fixing problems from
the last one. Seems they are aggressively attacking many issues and just
scheduling releases in a structured and manageable manner. As far as Altium
goes, what a concept, they finally seem to understand. Missed SP4? Well it will
make it into SP5 in a few months, etc.. Rather than it will make the next
service pack and then you wait 8 months or greater only to find that it wasn't
included in that service pack anyways.
I don't think that I will measure a company or their products by going
to an embedded design conference and expecting PCB support. Seems to be just a
reason for you to gripe. Is there something funny going on hear? You say that
you only want PCB & SCH but yet you attended the embedded conference instead of
the PCB design conference? Seems a little strange. Yes, I was greatly
disappointed that they were not at the PCB Design Conference but I have to
admit that this years conference was weakly attended. This was their reason
that I was given prior to the conference, weak attendance. Did I fell it was
right, no but that is just my feeling because of my needs. The world doesn't
evolve simply around my needs and I am reasonable enough to realize that.
Hamid, you can do whatever you want. However, as far as being
"orphaned" you are making the choices that are orphaning yourself. So why
complain it's the fault of others. You just have to make the best choices for
yourself, Altium is not going to baby-sit you, neither are any other software
companies I know of. Let your money do the walking, hope you find something
better that doesn't cost an arm and a leg with you still ending up in a similar
position.
Sincerely,
Brad Velander
Senior PCB Designer
Northern Airborne Technology
1925 Kirschner Rd.,
Kelowna, BC, V1Y 4N7.
tel (250) 763-2329 ext. 225
fax (250) 762-3374
-----Original Message-----
From: Hamid A. Wasti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: June 26, 2005 1:57 AM
To: Protel EDA Discussion List
Subject: Re: [PEDA] Altium Community Forums
Brad Velander wrote:
>So I am going where there seems to be a viable future with growth and
>improvement in the tools and their power.
>
Brad, that is where I think many 99SE evangelists disagree with you. I
am interested in PCB & Schematics and nothing else. If the next version
of the software can bring me coffee and cook my dinner, it will add no
value to me. For PCB & SCH, DXP, 2004 and Designer have been steps
backwards. I think there is no point in my reposting my fairly detailed
explanation of why the changes are actually regressions. I doubt any
99SE power user can ever achieve the same speed with the newer packages.
As for your hope of continued growth and improvement for PCB & SCH, I
would like to know what you are smoking. Have you be paying attention
to Altium's actions rather than their propaganda?
Was Altium there at PCB design expo? NO. They were down the street at
Embedded Systems Conf pushing the FPGA stuff and did not have a single
seat of PCB/Sch software at the boot -- not one. I know that because I
tried to show them the issues that I had written about a few weeks ago
and after 15 minutes of a search that most probably involved every
single Altium employee at the boot, they finally admitted that they did
not have a copy of the software that they could use to pull up either
SCH or PCB. With this history, do you think they will keep supporting
PCB & SCH if the FPGA business takes off? How will your "growth &
improvement" future look when all PCB & SCH support is outsourced to
your proverbial ESL team? Actually, they most probably can not nutter
the software any worse than the current team has.
Regards,
Hamid
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