Objects, Objectives, Objectivity:
JA:http://web.archive.org/web/20140326203601/http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.science.philosophy.peirce/12321
VNA:http://web.archive.org/web/20140326210000/http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.science.philosophy.peirce/12323
GF:http://web.archive.org/web/20140327140212/http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.science.philosophy.peirce/12341
JA:http://web.archive.org/web/20140327140236/http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.science.philosophy.peirce/12342
BU:http://web.archive.org/web/20140327202831/http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.science.philosophy.peirce/12345
JA:http://web.archive.org/web/20140327203000/http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.science.philosophy.peirce/12346
JND:http://web.archive.org/web/20140327203110/http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.science.philosophy.peirce/12347
JA:http://web.archive.org/web/20140327203600/http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.science.philosophy.peirce/12349
GF:http://web.archive.org/web/20140328184402/http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.science.philosophy.peirce/12357
VNA:http://web.archive.org/web/20140328184603/http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.science.philosophy.peirce/12358
GF:http://web.archive.org/web/20140328185204/http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.science.philosophy.peirce/12366
VNA:http://web.archive.org/web/20140328185246/http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.science.philosophy.peirce/12367
HR:http://web.archive.org/web/20140328180007/http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.science.philosophy.peirce/12370
JA:http://web.archive.org/web/20140329182010/http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.science.philosophy.peirce/12379
SJ:http://web.archive.org/web/20140331220002/http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.science.philosophy.peirce/12425
Sung,
There is a long history of people drawing various sorts of diagrams to explain the structure of
triadic sign relations, typically triangles or triskelions like the following:
`````O`````
`````●`````
````/`\````
```/`T`\```
S ●-----● I
`````O`````
`````●`````
`````|`````
`````|`````
`````T`````
````/`\````
```/```\```
S ●`````● I
Some people like to think of these as "icons" of triadic sign relations, but they are less icons
than mnemonic devices that just barely serve to jog our collateral knowledge of their referents,
only if we do indeed have that knowledge, and only if we know the key, the stylistic conventions
that were used to create them.
Diagrams like that are of little use to people who do not know what they are designed to indicate.
That requires one to understand the definitions of relations, triadic relations, and sign relations,
and so far you have not got that far, making all discussion of finer points an exercise in futility.
I have outlined the basics of the subject and posted pointers to longer expositions of its first
principles on multiple occasions. All I can do at this point is recommend that you make a first
effort to get the elements down before racing on to matters you know not of.
Regards,
Jon
Sungchul Ji wrote:
> Jon, Lists,
>
> According to the 4-node network representation of the Peircean sign, there
> are two kinds of debates about the object -- (i) the debate about the
> nature of the object itself (i.e., as a node of the network), and (ii) the
> debate about the relation between the object and the sign (i.e., about the
> edge, assuming that there is an object referred to by the sign). The
> former kind of debate may be akin to the debate going on about the "right"
> names to be used to represent the science of signs as discussed in my
> previous email, while the latter debate may be more substantial one,
> which inevitably would include discussing the other two relations as well
> due to the irreducibility of the sign triad.
>
> With all the best.
>
> Sung
> ___________________________________________________
> Sungchul Ji, Ph.D.
> Associate Professor of Pharmacology and Toxicology
> Department of Pharmacology and Toxicology
> Ernest Mario School of Pharmacy
> Rutgers University
> Piscataway, N.J. 08855
> 732-445-4701
>
> www.conformon.net
>
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