Tori wrote: "This may not be so obvious in human semiosis, but (033014-1) but biosemiotics doesn't work unless the object is defined as the objective."
I did not find and difficulty in applying Peirce's triadic sign to molecular and cell biology. I did not have to change the definition of "object" given by Peirce. As I indicated in[biosemiotcs:5721], Peirce's sign triad emobdies the concept of mathematical category which seems to apply to many other fields beyond semiotics, including Einstein's general relativity and cell biology. With all the best. Sung _____________________________________________________ Sungchul Ji, Ph.D. Associate Professor of Pharmacology and Toxicology Department of Pharmacology and Toxicology Ernest Mario School of Pharmacy Rutgers University Piscataway, N.J. 08855 732-445-4701 www.conformon.net > Jon, > I make the argument in "Creativity: Self-Referential Mistaking, Not > Negating" that "object" in the triad should be thought of as an objective > of the interpreting system. I give a number of reasons why the "object" > should not be thought of either as a material thing or as an idea. This > may not be so obvious in human semiosis, but biosemiotics doesn't work > unless the object is defined as the objective. > > If I recall correctly there was quite a bit of resistance to my theory > from several listers, esp Gary F (who has since reversed his opinion, I > believe.) In that paper I also relate the object to the intentional > object and to the emergent whole. > > You can view the paper here > http://www.academia.edu/2109842/Creativity_Self-Referential_Mistaking_Not_Negating > or here > http://www.researchgate.net/publication/232702090_Creativity_Self-Referential_Mistaking_Not_Negating > > Tori > > _________________________________ > Victoria N. Alexander, PhD > www.dactylfoundation.org > www.biologistsmistress.com > > > > > > > > On Mar 26, 2014, at 4:22 PM, Jon Awbrey wrote: > >> Peircers, >> >> Recent discussions of "purpose" in semiotics remind me once more of a >> recurring theme: >> >>> Jon Awbrey | 9 Sep 20:22 2011 >>> [http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.inquiry/3713] >>> >>> Objects, Objectives, Objectivity >>> I am constantly reminded of this favorite line from Peirce: >>> "No longer wondered what I would do in life but defined my object." >>> -- C.S. Peirce (1861), "My Life", (Chron. Ed. 1, p. 3) >>> The question of Objects, Objectives, and Objectivity is a persistent >>> one. >>> The Latin-rooted English "object" springs from deeper roots in the >>> Greek "pragma". >>> It was a personal revelation to me on first looking into Liddell and >>> Scott and >>> reading all the meanings and ramifications of that pragmatic semantic >>> complex: >>> http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.04.0057%3Aentry%3Dpra%3Dgma >>> It is especially the senses of the word "object" that refer to aims and >>> purposes, >>> in other words, intentional objects and objects of intention, that we >>> are likely >>> to miss if we don't remind ourselves of their pertinence to pragmatic >>> thinking. >>> Regards, >>> Jon >> >> -- >> >> academia: http://independent.academia.edu/JonAwbrey >> my word press blog: http://inquiryintoinquiry.com/ >> inquiry list: http://stderr.org/pipermail/inquiry/ >> isw: http://intersci.ss.uci.edu/wiki/index.php/JLA >> oeiswiki: http://www.oeis.org/wiki/User:Jon_Awbrey >> facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/JonnyCache >> >> ----------------------------- >> PEIRCE-L subscribers: Click on "Reply List" or "Reply All" to REPLY ON >> PEIRCE-L to this message. PEIRCE-L posts should go to >> [email protected] . To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message not to PEIRCE-L >> but to [email protected] with the line "UNSubscribe PEIRCE-L" in the >> BODY of the message. More at >> http://www.cspeirce.com/peirce-l/peirce-l.htm . >> >> >> >> > >
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