Hi Jeffrey and other Peircers. Your question about the foundations of 
measurement is above my pay grade, I'm sorry to say. Do I remember correctly 
that you're a Chapel Hill Ph.D., Jeffrey?  Do you have any views about 
connections between Peirce and John Roberts' work on explaining laws of nature 
in terms of groundings for measurements? I'm only dimly familiar with Roberts' 
work, but measurement and laws of nature get pretty close to the heart of 
Peirce's concerns.

I thought I might toss a couple of other questions in before we fully yield to 
the Chapter 7 folks. Both of these hearken back to my introductory message. 
First, Kees contrasts the doubt-belief theory with epistemic agnosticism, which 
he characterizes as the view that inquiry should proceed undisturbed by 
passions. I think that this is intriguing and insightful and I'd like to hear 
more about it. Peirce is sometimes contrasted with James precisely in terms of 
the latter's insistence on the appropriateness and inescapability of our 
"passional nature." And Peirce's distrust of individual idiosyncrasies in the 
JSP papers of the 1860's and especially in *Reasoning and the Logic of Things* 
can seem to stand in some tension with the doubt-belief theory's tolerance for 
conative influences on belief. I don't think that any of these considerations 
indicate that Kees is wrong, but I do think that we could learn a thing or two 
by thinking about how to situation "Fixation" with respect to some of James's 
provocative statements about temperament and our willing nature, and I think 
that we could learn a different thing or two by making it explicit how 
"Fixation" can be reconciled with some of the earlier and later works.

Kees uses epistemic agnosticism in his characterization of the a priori method 
in "Fixation," which brings me to my second question. Kees explains that this 
third method of fixing belief "appeals particularly to those who see a strong 
divide between reason and passions, and who then consider it our main task to 
free thought from the pernicious influence of the passions" (p. 97). Again, 
this can sound a bit like James engaging Clifford, but the other question I 
want to raise concerns how importantly different the a priori method is from 
its predecessors. Kees tends to emphasize its distinctness, arguing that the a 
priori method appeals to the content of the belief in trying to settle opinion. 
Hence the a priori method is like science and unlike the other two in being a 
genuine method of inquiry. I think that this is tricky and intriguing stuff. 
Peirce seems to guide us in both directions, saying in the same paragraph that 
the a priori method "is far more intellectual and respectable from the point of 
view of reason" than the other two and also that it "does not differ in a very 
essential way from that of authority." 

I look forward to our discussion of Chapter 7, whether or not we pick up these 
loose ends from Chapter 6.

Jeff K.
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From: Jeffrey Brian Downard [[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2014 11:14 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Fwd: [PEIRCE-L] RE: de Waal Seminar:  Chapter 6, Philosophy of 
Science

List,

I'd like to ask another question about the topic of chapter 6.  This question 
is not about the "Fixation of Belief."  Rather, it is about a part of the 
philosophy of science that does not figure prominently in Kees's discussion.

In the first half of the 20th century, a methodological dispute arose between 
those who were engaged in the special sciences of physics and psychology.  At 
the time, physics was considered a "hard" science because it was based on 
observations involving exact measurements.   The second was considered a "soft" 
science because it appeared to be based on observations that did not seem to be 
amenable to such an exact treatment.  In time, as the debate came to a head, a 
expert panel of experts in measurement was asked to take a closer look at the 
issues.  See, for instance, Stanley Smith Stevens, "On the theory of scales of 
measurement" (1946)..  In order to sort out a number of the contested issues, 
Suppes, Luce, Krantz and Tversky engaged in an ambitious attempt to examine the 
foundations of measurement in a more systematic and thorough manner.

Let's state the question in general terms.  What position does Peirce take with 
respect to the foundations of measurement?

If we look at Peirce's work in mathematics generally and on measurement theory 
in particular, we see him trying to provide a coherent framework for 
understanding foundations of key conceptions, such as quantity, order, 
magnitude.  How does his position compare to the accounts that have been 
developed in the 20th century by the likes of Stevens, or by Suppes, Luce, 
Krantz and Tversky?

--Jeff


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